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[edit]Is it worth noting that the postcard picture on the page is incredibly similar to Ram's cover, and is maybe seen as John's response?
Starr
[edit](new interview on myspace.com/ringostarr / he said that he is the drummer on imagine) Instead of saying this, cite it directly with ref tags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stormchaser (talk • contribs) 21:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
J&P Duo
[edit]Does anyone know who the J&P duo are, as it might be possible to start a page on them. John and Paul duo perhaps? It seems that maybe he was referencing the songwriting credit that existed when the song was written: 1968 Any other ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.122.9 (talk) 23:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
- John and Phil (Spector). – Hattrem (talk) 11:14, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:JohnLennonImaginePostcard.jpg
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Omar Elizalde
[edit]Who is this person? Edited out until a ref is supplied. I believe it to be fake.--andreasegde (talk) 14:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
"I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama I Don't Wanna Die"
[edit]Regarding recent sparring over the title of the song "I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama I Don't Wanna Die": There is a mix of usage. On the original album, the song title appears 3 times:
- on the label ("I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier")
- above the lyrics on one side of the sleeve ("I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama I Don't Wanna Die")
- as part of the musician credits on the other side of the sleeve ("I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama I Don't Wanna Die")
On the 2000 version of the Imagine CD, the title appears twice that I can see:
- in the booklet on the page with the lyrics ("I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama I Don't Wanna Die")
- on the back of the CD case sleeve ("I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama")
That's three different variations, but the most common is the longest, "I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama I Don't Wanna Die", and given that includes all the words in the other variations, I think that's the best choice for this article. — John Cardinal (talk) 03:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually on the original label it's "T Don't Want To Be A Soldier" Scatterkeir (talk) 13:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Personnel section
[edit]A quick look at the LP's inner sleeve verifies that Nicky Hopkins played electric piano on "Oh My Love" (track 7) and piano on "How Do You Sleep" (track 8), and that Joey Molland and Tom Evans played acoutic guitar on "I Don't Want to Be a Soldier" (track 5) but not on "Jealous Guy" (track 3), and Steve Brendell played upright bass on "Crippled Inside" (track 2) and maracas on "I Don't Want to Be a Soldier". Why are the edits attempting to correct this section being summarily reverted? What source is being cited to support the current version and exactly what does that source say? Piriczki (talk) 15:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- The Beatles Bible, which we don't consider a reliable source on Wiki, states this. Also the "organ" on Plastic Ono Band comes from Beatles Bible. In the VH-1 Special "classic albums" series, they show footage of John and Yoko playing an organ (in their home in 1969) while discussing the track Isolation. Hotcop2 (talk) 16:03, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, the Beatles Bible web site agrees with User:Raulseixas' version for the most part. The only difference appears to be where the Beatles Bible lists Molland and Evans playing acoustic guitar and Mike Pinder playing tambourine on "Jealous Guy", which appears to be based on their interpretation of Molland's recollection of the session that produced "Jealous Guy" and "I Don't Want to Be a Soldier". Even if they did participate in "Jealous Guy", evidently their contributions were not used as their are no acoustic guitars or tambourine on that track nor are they credited on the album. Is there some reason why an unreliable source should be used over the credits as listed on the LP sleeve? Piriczki (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Exactly, Piriczki. Nicky Hopkins played electric piano on "Oh My Love" (track 7) and piano on "How Do You Sleep" (track 8), and That Joey Molland and Tom Evans played acoutic guitar on "I Do not Want to Be a Soldier" (track 5) but not on "Jealous Guy" (track 3), and Steve Brendell played upright bass on "Crippled Inside" (track 2) and maracas on "I Do not Want to Be a Soldier". The credits listed on the LP sleeve! Raulseixas (talk) 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- I said he got it from Beatles Bible, which happens to be incorrect. Lennon is NOT playing piano on "Jealous Guy" it IS Hopkins. There are NO harmonies on "Plastic Ono Band" and the footage of Lennon playing organ was stock footage uased to illustrate the song on the VH-1 special.Hotcop2 (talk) 13:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Are you deaf? Have you heard the song Isolation? In the middle of song is the sound of organ... Are you deaf? Have you heard the song Isolation? Song in the middle is the sound of organ ... As for harmony, now retired and exchanged information on organ in keyboard, but still follow reversing. Raulseixas (talk) 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- I said he got it from Beatles Bible, which happens to be incorrect. Lennon is NOT playing piano on "Jealous Guy" it IS Hopkins. There are NO harmonies on "Plastic Ono Band" and the footage of Lennon playing organ was stock footage uased to illustrate the song on the VH-1 special.Hotcop2 (talk) 13:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Exactly, Piriczki. Nicky Hopkins played electric piano on "Oh My Love" (track 7) and piano on "How Do You Sleep" (track 8), and That Joey Molland and Tom Evans played acoutic guitar on "I Do not Want to Be a Soldier" (track 5) but not on "Jealous Guy" (track 3), and Steve Brendell played upright bass on "Crippled Inside" (track 2) and maracas on "I Do not Want to Be a Soldier". The credits listed on the LP sleeve! Raulseixas (talk) 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, the Beatles Bible web site agrees with User:Raulseixas' version for the most part. The only difference appears to be where the Beatles Bible lists Molland and Evans playing acoustic guitar and Mike Pinder playing tambourine on "Jealous Guy", which appears to be based on their interpretation of Molland's recollection of the session that produced "Jealous Guy" and "I Don't Want to Be a Soldier". Even if they did participate in "Jealous Guy", evidently their contributions were not used as their are no acoustic guitars or tambourine on that track nor are they credited on the album. Is there some reason why an unreliable source should be used over the credits as listed on the LP sleeve? Piriczki (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
According to the credits on the LP's inner sleeve, the personnel section should be as follows:
- Nicky Hopkins – piano (all except 1, 4, 7), electric piano (7)
- Joey Molland – acoustic guitar (5)
- Tom Evans – acoustic guitar (5)
- Steve Brendell – upright bass (2), maracas (5)
Can anyone cite a reliable source that supercedes this? Piriczki (talk) 12:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
So hey, on the original LP labels, the album is credited to "John Lennon Plastic Ono Band (with the Flux Fiddlers)". By 1987, the album was credited to solely Lennon. Is there a reason for the switch ? Should this page reflect that ? -Matharvest
I am a big fan of Jim Gordon
[edit]but I've decided to remove this:
- Musicians at these sessions included drummer Jim Gordon.
until such time as someone tells me what songs he played on, because even if he was there, that's not notable unless he . . .... you know, played on something. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 07:01, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- The track was "It's So Hard" although the sentence does seem pointless since it only mentions one of the musicians involved. Piriczki (talk) 12:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
The title of this article should really indicate the artist per WP:SONGDAB. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:28, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
- No objection? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Andrew Denning and Common Sense Media as reviewers
[edit]I've started a discussion at Talk:WP Albums regarding the inclusion of these two in the reviewer ratings box. Personally, I'm not convinced of their eligibility. If anyone's got any thoughts on this issue, please feel free to weigh in at the discussion there. Thanks, JG66 (talk) 09:27, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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Ono co-write
[edit]I think something has to be mentioned about Ono as co-writer on the track. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.133.142.48 (talk) 23:10, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
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