User:Jnestorius
Joesty Nestorius, at your service.
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[edit]Misc
[edit]- Olympic medal and Medal (sports) from gold medal, silver medal, bronze medal
- Hiberno-English phonology; standard v dialect;
- Clay Sanskrit Library ←→ John P. Clay : Murty Classical Library of India
- Sheldon Pollock quoted in Kuruvilla, Elizabeth (24 January 2015). "The modern revivalists". Live Mint corresponded with [HUP] on 5 January 2009, saying that the Clay Sanskrit Library ... was coming to an end and I wanted to find a way to build on that visionary project ... John Clay ... had decided to move on to other philanthropic activities. So the library was closed and many translators were left hanging. They had done one part of a series, Book 1 of Kadambari, Books 2 and 3 were just “sorry, bye". I want to praise John Clay for his extraordinary vision, but many people were blindsided by the sudden termination of the library and I felt that was unfair. ... John said no, I don’t want you to go raise money for me, I don’t want to continue the series, it is what it is, thank you, bye-bye—that was in October 2008"
- Wookie adds from other spellings
- David Copperfield -- little Emily was never a prostitute, whereas Martha was.
- do you remember Martha?” / “Of our town?” / I needed no other answer than his face. / “Do you know that she is in London?” / “I have seen her in the streets,” he answered, with a shiver.
- When my child,” he said aloud, and with an energy of gratitude that shook him from head to foot, “stood upon the brink of more than I can say or think on—Martha, trew to her promise, saved her!”
- List of Irish Academy Award winners and nominees
- John Huston 1964 [1], Anjelica Huston 1964 p. 127
- List of British Academy Award nominees and winners
- Peter O'Toole had Irish passport
- site:dib.ie "academy award"
- Maureen O'Hara born in Ireland, honorary Oscar
- {{Ireland newspapers}} and other two "Newspapers of Ireland founded in the period before the establishment of Northern Ireland in 1921 and the Republic of Ireland in 1937" — (1) 1937 was Constitution, 1949 was Republic (2) why the different end dates? Why not just 1921 for both? (3) why plaster two overlapping templates onto most articles? what value to readers? (4) just vague yuck
- Court of Chancery#Origins cited 1828 source says 8 Ed. 1 quote (Law French original in 1662 cited by 1828) is a "Statute", but a 1970 source says "Chancery memorandum".
- The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show merge some SeeAlso into Legacy
- Governorate of Paraguay -- how to split rows where governor spans two kings? rownum on cells is not working. List of prime ministers of the United Kingdom is a FL with same problem in Monarch column!
- Cashio add redirect and in- links and dab or hatnote
- Names of the Holocaust intro redo from The Holocaust#Terminology and scope
- Lord Mayor of Dublin 1959 Council motion to request Oireachtas act removing Lord from title was amended to Irish Ard Mhaor IT 6 Sep 1959 p1
- Bowl of Light at An Tóstal 1953. Sources differ. Photos exist. plastic flames, copper bowl, steel tubes, concrete base; compared to a coal-effect electric fire. Brawl started when hoarding removed to reveal monument. https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-philadelphia-inquirer-george-m-neil/27326732/ Anthony Babington Wilson soon threw flames into river, fined. Bowl thrown in later by students. Flowers planted in bowl later. DCC debated removal 1958.[1] Removed 1964 as too heavy. Called "The Thing" after flowers added or "The Tomb of the Unknown Gurrier" before then by Jimmy O'Dea. https://ifiarchiveplayer.ie/the-thing-is-removed-from-oconnell-bridge/ https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/the-times-we-lived-in-the-odd-bowl-of-light-on-o-connell-bridge-1.3411617 https://www.dublincity.ie/library/blog/rathmines-literary-heritage-transcript https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Bowl+of+Light%22+tostal+-wikipedia&tbm=bks
- county corporate and Unreformed House of Commons and Irish House of Commons — I think only in Irish counties corporate did the extra-municipal liberties form part of the parliamentary borough as opposed to voting for the county-at-large; but complications elsewhere. Separate questions of forty shilling freeholders inside vs outside municipal boundary.
- Corbett, Uvedale (1826). An Inquiry Into the Elective Franchise of the Freeholders of, and the Rights of Election for, the Corporate Counties in England and Wales. London: J. & W. T. Clarke.
- includes brief discussion of Irish CCs on pp. 47–48
- Municipal Corporation (Boundaries) Act 1836 suggests 1835 act mistakenly added corporate county's Liberties to municipal area, whereas 1836 act reversed that and seemingly also took Liberties from corporate to at-large county. Presumably this experience influenced Irish act of 1840.
- Corbett, Uvedale (1826). An Inquiry Into the Elective Franchise of the Freeholders of, and the Rights of Election for, the Corporate Counties in England and Wales. London: J. & W. T. Clarke.
- Krivichs Radimichs and Dregovichs — bare -s plural is incorrect; Krivich[i] or Krivichian[s] etc per languagehat and Google Books University Press
- eg 2024 Cork City Council election results use "new" in the delta columns --- misleading and unnecessary
- Penalty shoot-out (association football) talks about winning the match rather than winning the fixture; in the case of a single match, the shootout is not part of the match [check World/euro ranking points]; also, two legged ties and group ranking tiebreakers.
- Not Angles but angels
- Hugh O'Neill, 1st Baron Rathcavan his three Privy Councils
- Trinity College, Dublin and University of Dublin: merge most of latter into former, and refactor separate University of Dublin–Trinity College distinction --- User:Jnestorius/TCD vs Dublin U
- Steven van de Velde - child rape vs statutory rape, English criminal law vs Dutch law s.5 of Sexual Offences Act 2003, summary vs detail of acts NYT, lenient sentence because career over
- Joel Embiid more on France letter to macron about aunts Cameroon first, bad CAM-FRA relations NYT interview athletic story French unhappy
- Category:Football clubs in Fiji -- as per Ba FA others need Foo F.C. renamed to Foo FA see rsssf names
- Ireland at the Olympics — Why are Ireland winning more Olympic medals? Post-Sydney reforms are helping Independent report after 2000 Games not implemented until after 2004 Games. "As soon as it [2000] was over, the infant Irish Sports Council, the age-old Olympic Council of Ireland, the Minister for Sport and the National Coaching and Training Centre were at each other’s throats." "Ireland didn’t have its first 50 metre pool until 2002." [Competitors dubbed] “Olympic tourists”. "Accountability was weak. Clientelism was rife." Radio shows criticised poor showing. [2024 good results] "This is what the high performance network was designed to produce"
- Coxswain (rowing)#Sex - heartheboatsing FINA 2017 gender neutral but ARA and HRR 1976 and Sue Brown 1981 -- was that both ways or female Cox only? Also mixed vs open vs female in US/UK. Also pararowing non-disabled cox
- Puissance separate high jump and remove hatnote
- Add Poulton Lancelyn redirect to Bebbington and update latter, Lancelyn Green, and Poulton (disambiguation) accordingly
- homonymous dab visual field issues, see also Homology
- List of UK parliamentary election petitions → /List of UK parliamentary election petitions — for "void election" add link to ensuing by-election; also change glossary "Reason" seems outofdate and "Result" repeats 'One of four possible outcomes of a petition trial'
- 2018 Athletics World Cup merge from Athletics World Cup into date name and make no-date name a dab with IAAF World Cup and see also World Athletics and World Athletics Championships
- List of world records in athletics relays
- name the teams; some are College or club rather than national
- move splits now anchor from notes column and/or change label to make obvious
- similar changes to progression and all-time lists
- List of best-selling albums in the United States merge sections into one table, trim repeated text like Platinum, maybe add studio/live/compilation/soundtrack column, more meaningful notes than asterisk/obelisk, standardise refs (do any disagree?), simpler lede-- criterion is 10x platinum = diamond certification.
- Nobility Law (Norway) -- add wl, integrate see-alsos Norwegian nobility, Norwegian noble titles
- 1911 Mammy's lullaby with music
- 1969 Mammy loves world's simplest songs
- Odetta liner notes:
- 1957 At the Gate of Horn — PRETTY HORSES — A woman crooning a lullaby to a baby while she leaves her own unattended in order to earn money for bread. In the song she refers to her own child as the lambie in the meadow. This lullaby comes from the South, post Civil War.
- 1960 Odetta at Carnegie Hall — All the Pretty Little Horses. It is a lullaby from the slave period, of a Negro woman who must go to the “big house” to take care of the master’s child while her own “little lamby” remains unattended.
- JSTOR 1495941 doi:10.2307/1495941 review of song book
- [proquest] The Language of Lullabies; Alice Sterling Honig. YC Young Children; Washington Vol. 60, Iss. 5, (Sep 2005): 30-36
- [proquest or ebscohost] "Hush-a-bye baby": Death and violence in the lullaby; Marina Warner. Raritan; New Brunswick Vol. 18, Iss. 1, (Summer 1998): 93-114
- the savage turn taken in the second verse ... frequently softened by singers ... Peter, Paul and Mary's recording, for instance. American commentators traditionally interpret these lyrics as those of a black mother who sings of her own baby, left behind in the fields while she looks after the white folks' offspring. ... its unexpected morbidity [is] a most characteristic lullaby
- ebscohost jrnl=17569575 found but AN=110087355 not
- alias "Cornbread Crumbled in Gravy" in Bullfrog Jumped: Children's Folksongs from the Byron Arnold Collection doi:10.1353/ala.2009.0042
- Mary Chapman Grove Hill, Alabama recorded 5 July; recording online
- ebscohost Black Feminist Theories of Motherhood and Generation: Histories of Black Infant and Child Loss in the United States. By: Simmons, LaKisha Michelle, Signs: Journal of Women in Culture & Society, 00979740, Winter2021, Vol. 46, Issue 2
- Fannie Lou Hamer version passed down from enslaved grandmother/ cited Hamer, Fannie Lou. (1963) 2015. Songs My Mother Taught Me. Mp3. Washington, DC: Smithsonian Folkways Recordings. first 10s preview
- ebscohost Patricia Hill Collins' Black Feminine Identity in Toni Morrison's Beloved. By: Ghasemi, Parvin, Heidari, Samira, Journal of African American Studies, 15591646, Dec2020, Vol. 24, Issue 4 "The great degree of apprehension and worry manifestly expressed in the second stanza of the poem contains rage and resentment; this great anger is voiced and conveyed by means of descriptions and imageries related to conjure"
- mudcat has several refs, but...
- ...LOC ref is Baa Baa Black Sheep
- Ballad Index LxU002: All the Pretty Little Horses 2024 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle — index lists many books and a few recordings
- Roud number 6705 — index lists many recordings and a few books, manuscripts, etc.
- 1855 "The Judge’s Big Shirt"
- OED (Dec. 2015 update per linguistlist) s.v. "nine, adj." subsense 3.e. [sense 3 groups "allusive and proverbial uses"; others include "nine days' wonder", "nine ways at once", "nine lives"] "Apparently originating in the frequently repeated comic story cited in quot. 1855." — says who? OED internal lexicographers? What of others? (1855 quote is in brackets; 1907 quote is first unqualified)
- nytimes 2012 (article has potted history of antedatings since 1982 Safire NYT article; also enchilada, shebang, ball of wax)
- Barry Popik barrypopik.com — originally 2005 but check archive.org for dates of later edits — 'it appears that a popular 1855 story, "The Judge's Big Shirt," spread the idea that the "whole nine yards" of cloth meant "everything."'
- Fred Shapiro
- nytimes.com 2013/01/02 sceptical of 1855 relevance (also Brooklyn Eagle 1873 “a brief and pithy letter nine yards long.”)
- yalealumnimagazine The inflation of “cloud seven” and “the whole six yards.” 2013 finds 1921 “the whole six yards”
- Patricia T. O'Conner and Stewart Kellerman grammarphobia 2016/12 Dubious of 1855–1907 attestation gap: "Perhaps researchers will eventually fill in the gap with more examples." / Other researchers have found that cloth was often sold in multiples of three yards during the 19th century, and “nine yards” was a common measurement. / “nine yards to the dollar” / Richard Bucci 1850 will not attempt to follow you through your ‘nine yards’ in all its serpentine windings
- Stephen Goranson [2] "1855 joke link is iffy, at best"
- David Wilton wordorigins "the long gap, over fifty years, between this citation and the next militates against this story"
(Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive subpages unless stated otherwise):
- User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 34#|dead-url=unfit "In all cases, the |url= values that Cyberbot II declared to be unfit, are not in fact, unfit and are working correctly. ... I will modify Module:Citation/CS1 to add articles with |dead-url=unfit and |dead-url=usurped to a maintenance category so these templates are marked and can be inspected and repaired." added to sandbox 2016-06-20T11:56:25
- 19—|dead-url=unfit maintenance category "I misspoke. Cyberbot II sets |dead-url=unfit when it moves an archival url from |url= to |archive-url= leaving behind the original url in |url= ... As a result of the conversation at the bot operator's talk page, I have modified the sandbox to include a new |dead-url= keyword bot: unknown." added to sandbox 2016-06-21T15:57:56
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(lines 3851 et seq) sandbox to main 2016-07-30T10:55:17 - Category talk:CS1 maint: unfit URL#How to remove "Is there a method to remove this category from articles when the parameter has been correctly applied?" 26 January 2019 "The maintenance message helps to answer editor questions about why the reference has the 'Archived from the original' static text where 'the original' isn't linked" 6 January 2024
- 57—Unfit URLs "Seems a bit silly to have a maintenance category that can't be emptied." "A lot of the articles in that category come from a time when Cyberbot II was adding |dead-url=unfit to many cs1|2 templates that it touched. ... We could create additional keywords unfit-verified, usurped-verified. What then? ... Someone may find it useful – it isn't as though there is a cost to having such categories." 22 May 2019
- 72—unfit url: maint or property? "The tracking category for pages using |url-status=unfit or |url-status=usurped, Category:CS1 maint: unfit url, seems like it would make more sense as a property category, much like Category:CS1: long volume value, given that there are legitimate uses for those values" "We've had one or two (not recent?) discussions about whether it should be maintained. For example, someone might feasibly misuse the parameter to remove a URL that doesn't need removing, where maybe it should be the case that someone should check that each instance of unfit is a good use." 27 October 2020
- 83—unfit url maintenance message "I think that you are the first to complain about lingering maintenance messaging." 6 March 2022
- 84—url-status parameter invalid "There is no required action for most maintenance messages." 3 August 2022
- 88—Template:Citation Style documentation/url leaves a Script warning "explain why there should be a Script warning – of any type – when using url-status=unfit in the way explicitly defined by the documentation" 17 April 2023
- reasoned amendment - procedureofhouse03redl said flat no to main motion never used
- "not the county town" books [3], [4], [5], [6]
- refs from 2011,[2] 2016,[3] and 2022[4] all call Teju Cole a "pen name" for Obayemi "Yemi" [Babajide Adetokunbo] Onafuwa
- I note that 2016 ref is a bit snarky about the change
- but Cole (as User:Simultanagnosia)
- removed in 2020 from lede (left in infobox)
- User:Lopifalko re-added (as "born" rather than "real name"), Cole reverted, Lopifalko de-reverted then self-reverted "WP:BLP states that such things can be removed if the subject of the article is trying to communicate that they would like them removed"
- The edit summary may be alluding to WP:BLPEDIT "When a logged-out editor blanks all or part of a BLP, this might be the subject attempting to remove problematic material"; not WP:BLPNAME which relates to "individuals who are discussed primarily in terms of a single event"
- User:Lopifalko re-added (as "born" rather than "real name"), Cole reverted, Lopifalko de-reverted then self-reverted "WP:BLP states that such things can be removed if the subject of the article is trying to communicate that they would like them removed"
- said in 2015 Talk that "Teju Cole" was by then his legal name and name for all other purposes:
- v1 - "strongly preferred name" - "it becomes a topic of discussion, and this is precisely what one wishes to avoid"
- v2 - "This information is handled differently for Toni Morrison, Marguerite Yourcenar, Tea Obreht, Jhumpa Lahiri, Xeni Jardin, and a number of contemporary writers who use a name other than the ones they're born with, but whom I do not wish to out." --- instances he cites are [no longer] of the format he would prefer
- Section deleted in 2015 by User:Nickknack00 without explanation
- removed in 2020 from lede (left in infobox)
- I suggest:
- restoring birthname to body with info on when used and when changed
- but do any citable sources give full name without asserting Teju Cole is only a pen name? I suspect they all rely (perhaps tacitly) on the Wikipedia article, which is invalid per WP:CIRCULAR
- add comment-note to lede saying not to add there
- restore section to Talk, ping Simultanagnosia Lopifalko and Nickknack00 and re-open discussion
- remove email address etc
- add {{Connected contributor}} Simultanagnosia
- restoring birthname to body with info on when used and when changed
References
- ^ "O'Connell Bridge structure not to be removed". The Irish Times. 11 March 1958. p. 1. Retrieved 19 June 2024.
- ^ permalink-version-ref1
- ^ Gehrmann, Susanne (2 January 2016). "Cosmopolitanism with African roots. Afropolitanism's ambivalent mobilities". Journal of African Cultural Studies. 28 (1): 72 note 15. doi:10.1080/13696815.2015.1112770#EN0015. JSTOR 24758431.
- ^ Sykes, Rachel (1 March 2022). "Cole, Teju". In O'Donnell, Patrick; Burn, Stephen J.; Larkin, Lesley (eds.). The Encyclopedia of Contemporary American Fiction, 1980–2020. Vol. I. John Wiley & Sons. p. 275. doi:10.1002/9781119431732.ecaf0035. ISBN 978-1-119-43171-8.
Check edit history in case someone has made a bad tweak that should first be reverted.
- Contradiction
Currently there is a disconnect between the first and second lines:
- Use "Ireland" for the state except where the island of Ireland or Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context. In such circumstances use "Republic of Ireland" (e.g. "Strabane is at the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland").
- An exception is where the state forms a major component of the topic (e.g. on articles relating to states, politics or governance) where "Ireland" should be preferred and the island should be referred to as the "island of Ireland" or similar (e.g. "Ireland is a state in Europe occupying most of the island of Ireland").
Line #1 says use "Ireland" for the state by default; line #2 says use "Ireland" for the state only in exceptional cases.
- Minor tweak
I would like to change
- "Ireland" should not normally be linked. If it is thought necessary to link, in order to establish context or for any other reason, the name of the state must be pipelinked as
[[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]]
.
- "Ireland" should not normally be linked. If it is thought necessary to link, in order to establish context or for any other reason, the name of the state must be pipelinked as
- to
- "Ireland" (state or island) should not normally be linked. If it is thought necessary to link, in order to establish context or for any other reason, "Ireland" (the state) must be pipelinked as
[[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]]
- "Ireland" (state or island) should not normally be linked. If it is thought necessary to link, in order to establish context or for any other reason, "Ireland" (the state) must be pipelinked as
It seems clear to me that there are two orthogonal minority cases: (1) where "Republic of Ireland" is to used instead of "Ireland" and (2) where the label is to be linked instead of left unlinked. If a case is at the intersection and meets BOTH (1) AND (2) then it should be linked as [[Republic of Ireland]]
.
- Lacuna
There is the separate question regarding "island of Ireland"
- is this the preferred formulation
- in the minority of cases with link, is it
island of [[Ireland]]
or[[Ireland|island of Ireland]]
Checkup
[edit]- Capital punishment in Ireland
- Orders, decorations, and medals of the Republic of Ireland, see also Old revision of British honours system
- Kilkenny cats
Dealing with controversy
[edit]Try to satisfy the following requirements, in descending order of importance:
- Do not say anything that is not true
- This does not preclude initial simplifications and approximations clearly flagged as such and corrected later in an article.
- Do not omit anything important
- This may be a temptation to forestall controversy, editwars, etc; but "don't mention the war" is bad advice for an encyclopedia.
- Distinguish between "Controversy about Foo" and "Foo"
- Do not allow the former to overwhelm the latter. Depending on the particular case, the controversy may better be either confined to its own section/subarticle or else interspersed through the article .
- Is there even a controversy?
- There may be a difference of opinion with no engagement between advocates of each opinion. Or there may be polite debate. Or they may be vitriolic or violent conflict.
- Avoid annoying partisans
- Avoid hot-button words and phrases likely to annoy partisans of one side of the controversy: Avoiding using a term does not mean avoiding mentioning it.
- Avoid annoying neutrals
- Avoid long-winded circumlocutions, hedges, or terms of art; litanies of "on the one hand...on the other hand..."