Talk:Michael Jackson
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Many of these questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning Michael Jackson. To view an explanation to the answer, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Q1: Should the article mention reports that Michael Jackson was Muslim? (No.)
A1: No. The article should not mention reports that Michael Jackson was Muslim. Jackson had not publicly spoken about his exact religion in a number of years and only spoke about spirituality in general terms. The specific reports of a conversion ceremony for Jackson have been denied by his New York lawyer Londell McMillan.[1] They were also denied by Yusuf Islam/Cat Stevens[2] and Dawud Wharnsby[3] who were allegedly present at the ceremony. The Michael Jackson memorial service did not involve any Islamic rites. Without further details from his family or representatives, it will not be included in the article. Q2: Should the "Jacko" name be mentioned in the lead? (No.)
A2: No. The "Jacko" name should not be mentioned in the lead. Past consensus goes against such inclusion. The name is a derogatory term used primarily by US/UK/Australian tabloids. The slogan is discussed in the relevant section of the article. Q3: Should the article mention that Jackson reportedly had cancer/blindness/liver disease/AIDS, etc.? (No.)
A3: No.
The article should not mention that Jackson reportedly had cancer, blindness, liver disease, AIDS, etc. Until such claims are confirmed by a Jackson representative it will not go in the article at all. These claims are largely fabricated by tabloids. Q4: Should the article mention that Jackson reportedly had a secret child called Omer Bhatti? (No.)
A4: No.
This claim was denied by Bhatti [4] and only a DNA test would resolve the matter. Q5: Isn't Jackson the seventh child of the Jackson family, not the eighth? (No.)
A5: No.
Marlon had a twin, Brandon, who died shortly after birth. This makes Michael the eighth child. |
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 April 2024[edit]
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Change Joseph to Joe.
Michael Jackson's middle name is Joe, not Joseph.
This comes from court documents. Mjsmyidol (talk) 00:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Which document(s) are you referring to? Last I checked, "Joe" was an alternate middle name used while the more formal "Joseph" was his legal name, but either way links would be helpful. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 00:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, Mihchael has verbally stated « Joseph » as his middle name on a few occasions. Chasetruth101 (talk) 16:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Lead section concern (again)[edit]
Hello. I noticed the nickname "King of Pop" is emboldened and not link. Do you think it should be linked to Honorific nicknames in popular music without being in bold face? Other singer article FAs like Mariah Carey, Regine Velasquez, and Kyla are linked to the aforementioned list of nicknames in music without being in bold text. What can you say? ScarletViolet (t • c) 12:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- From what I saw in a previous edit summary, the lack of a link is because "King of Pop" already redirects to this page. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2024[edit]
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Remove the red links of Big News Network in 95 reference and Brittany Spanos in 182 reference! 2804:1B3:9601:37FD:A599:29E6:5980:1205 (talk) 01:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done thanks for pointing those out, especially when both pages have been deleted. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Regarding the image of MJ[edit]
Why is the main image of him in black and white? I think it would be cooler to have an image of him in color on the top of the article, as long as it's freely licensed. Zakawer (talk) 01:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't remember what led to the current image used, but if you have any particular suggestions on what else to use for the infobox, then please list them here. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- His most famous looks are
- Smooth Criminal (1988)
- History Era w/Black Fedora Hat (1996-98)
- Black or White (1991)
- Thriller (1984)
- Bad (1987)
- American Music Awards (1984)
- In the Closet (1993)
- Dangerous Tour (1993)
- Short Hair (1995)
- Billie Jean (1982)
- So any of these would do Never17 (talk) 17:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- These are copyrighted and not suitable for WP:NFCC as there are various free to use images of Jackson on Wikimedia Commons. There have been numerous debates about this and I'm not the greatest fan of the 1988 image, but it does have a consensus.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah it's tough because the estate copyrights literally any usage of his likeness, it's hard to find a good one we can use. But i was just throwing it out there that one of those would be good if we were to make a change Never17 (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Images we currently have the proper copyright are available for viewing at https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Michael_Jackson .... Is there something there that stands out? Moxy🍁 19:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Of the ones available, this one is easily the most famous (Dangerous Tour 1993). The image is extremely high quality, in color and would be a great picture to use since it's frequently referenced a lot. So my vote is for this Never17 (talk) 00:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Images we currently have the proper copyright are available for viewing at https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Michael_Jackson .... Is there something there that stands out? Moxy🍁 19:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah it's tough because the estate copyrights literally any usage of his likeness, it's hard to find a good one we can use. But i was just throwing it out there that one of those would be good if we were to make a change Never17 (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 June 2024[edit]
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This sentence should be re-written in the past tense. It should also be clearer.
Change this: “The executors claim that it was worth about $7 million, the IRS that it was worth over $1.1 billion.”
To this: “The executors claimed that it was worth about $7 million, while the IRS claimed that it was worth over $1.1 billion.” 2600:4040:549B:7300:7027:BCB4:5F36:50E5 (talk) 14:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done the sentence has been revised accordingly. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 15:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Contradictory information in Death section[edit]
Currently, the death section says:
Jackson died from cardiac arrest, caused by a propofol and benzodiazepine overdose.
…and then says…
Murray had administered propofol, lorazepam, and midazolam; his death was caused by a propofol overdose.
Which one is correct? Nosferattus (talk) 18:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2024[edit]
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This a very minor request, instead of "Michael Jackson sold around 500 million records" it should be "Michael Jackson sold over 500 million records. All i want changed is one word Never17 (talk) 19:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Religion/Personal life[edit]
Hello. Could anyone tell me if it's appropriate to include Michael's conversion to Islam?[5][6] Thank you Grandia01 (talk) 07:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- See the FAQ at the top of this page. This was dismissed as unreliable a long time ago.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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