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Resolve conflict please
[edit]Need your involvement Admin Sahib Ranjit Singh article
[edit]- Ranjit Singh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)[Singh&action=history]
Reason: small level of vandalism.
- RegentsPark, Ranjit singh Article has been conflicted by editor see user:Hind ji,he always edit jat caste related articles or I think he belongs to jat caste please see the log of user:Hind ji[[1]]So your involvement requested to resolve the conflict ,there are variety of resources available on the internet but recently University had his researched on criminal tribes shows Ranjit Singh belongs to sansi caste :Hind ji try to declared Ranjit Singh as jat ,I have added that link as reliable source or as reference but one of user:Hind ji has reverted my edit without informing me .I may also have been wrong ,kindly resolve our issues.hope for early reply Thank you.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/research-on-tribes-dubbed-criminal-by-british-397524 He trying to create influence of jat caste .
Origin
[edit]For historical facts, we need historians, i.e. HISTAR-compliant sources. The subject of this article is covered by multiple historians specialising in Sikh history and all of their sources that I have seen so far state that he was a Jat by origin. That includes W. H. McLeod,[1] Hari Ram Gupta,[2] Ganda Singh,[3] A. C. Arora,[4] Bhagat Singh,[5] Fauja Singh,[6] Mandeep Kaur Samra,[7] etc. Even historian Rajmohan Gandhi mentions the same thing in his book focusing on Ranjit Singh's empire.[8][9]
Ranjit Singh's first known ancestor who accepted Sikhism (Budha Singh) was a Jat.[3][5] His father (Maha Singh) and grandfather (Charat Singh) were Jats.[4] His Sukerchakia Misl, which was founded by his grandfather, was obviously of Jat ethnicity.[10][11] Note that his ethnic/caste background played an important part in his personal as well as ruling life: he married two widows under the Jat customs;[12] his state policies were also affected by it.[13]
So historians are very clear about the Jat background of him and his parents, his grandparents, his Misl, and his first known ancestor.
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- NitinMlk (talk) 19:31, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- @NitinMlk Great write-up. I have also noticed the family trees in the article mixed-up the positions of his ancestors Budha Singh (born Desu) and Nodha Singh. Budha was the father of Nodha, not vice-versa like the family trees were suggesting, seemingly based off of an erroneous tree presented in 'Punjab Chiefs' by Lepel Griffin (first published in 1865). I have gone ahead and removed both family trees from the article as a result. ThethPunjabi (talk) 23:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Azim Khan wikilink
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We have an article on Azim Khan, which could be wikilinked on text found in the "Expansion" section, but currently isn't. Could That wikilink be added? -- 97.124.47.226 (talk) 06:39, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Just to confirm, he is the general from 1813. Looking at his wiki page, it makes no mention that he was a general, but I will assume that he was based on context. Heart (talk) 06:47, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Done (with removal of 'General' to make it less ambiguous). Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 06:58, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Maharaja Ranjit Sing was a Also Gujjar 223.62.204.66 (talk) 18:54, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2024
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Emailtolucky10 (talk) 14:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
HISTORY THE CASTE OF MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH WAS SAID TO BE OF A SANSI SIKH AS PER THE OLD RECORDS FOUND IN LAHORE PAKISTAN WHICH NEEDS TO BE CHECKED AS THE AMRITSAR AIRPORT WAS NAMED AFTER HIM AS RAJASANSI AIRPORT HOWEVER HE IS ALLEGEDLY OF THE JAT SIKH FAMILY MAY PLEASE BE CHECKED WITH THE RECORDS FOUND IN THE LAHORE FORT PAKISTAN
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Reg info in issue section
[edit]Maharaja Kharak singh was born on 24th Feb, 1800 (Samvat 1857). Ref. Umdat-ut-twarikh Kanwar Rattan Singh was born on 1802. So request you to kindly edit the info section by adding kanwar Rattan singh followed by the rest as he was the second son.
I also appreciate your protection mode in this matter as few were inclined to deteriorate the family history.
Appreciate your kind understanding.
Thanks & Regards Kanwar Sandeep Singh Sukherchakia (Adv) Kanwar sandeep (talk) 17:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
In section Early years
[edit]Maharaja Ranjit singh was a Suryavanshi Rajpootra of Kashyap Gotra. The symbol of Surya can be seen in his dome.
Secondly in the section Early years it reads "Sandhawalia Jat" which is wrong because how can Maha Singh form a Sukherchakia Misl if he was a Sandhawalia Jat? The information conflicts here and also on village sukherchak which is 8 miles from the fort city Amritsar which was the jaddi pind settled by Budda Singh (Desi) where as the Sandhawalia pend is Raja Sansi where you will find the samadhas of Sandhawalia's ancestors only and not a single one from our family.
Dear Editor, I want to make many changes in this topic because this history is misleading as it's devoid of certain facts. Maharaja Ranjit Singh born on 13th Nov, 1780 in Badrukha and not in Gujranwala, because when Maha Singh received the news of his birth he was at a Muhim and Gujranwala was always vulnerable.
Appreciate your understanding!
You can contact me, so that i can provide you all the necessary information which requires a serious edit.
Thanks & Regards Kanwar Sandeep Singh Sukherchakia (Adv. SC) Kanwar sandeep (talk) 17:55, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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