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August 10

"User is blocked" message

Why am I getting a "User is blocked" message when I try to upload a media. Screenshot: [1] Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 00:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Vestrian24Bio: As it says in the message, you address is blocked due to proxy rules. Follow the instructions in the message to request a review. RudolfRed (talk) 01:03, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Request for Assistance in Creating/Updating Author and TV Show Creator Page

Hello Wikipedia Community,

I am seeking assistance in creating or updating a Wikipedia page for myself as an author and creator of children’s TV shows. I have published three books and produced several TV shows for kids. Here are some details about my work:

Books Published (albanian language): “Mëngjeset janë parajsa“ (poezi, 2018) - "Heaven is another morning" (poetry, 2018) „Qyteti Qiellzi“ (prozë poetike, 2020) - "Black Sky City" (poetic prose, sci-fi, 2020) „Qielli i shpirtit“ (poemë, 2021) - "Sky of the soul" (poem, sci-fi, 2021)

TV Shows for Kids: I've been working for 12 years in MRT (Macedonian Radio Television) which is a public broadcasting organization and there I have worked as an author and presenter. These are my original titles:

„Eja në përrallën tonë“ (2015-2018) - "Come to our fairytale" (2015-2018) „Zbavitemi dhe zbulojmë“ (2019) - "Having fun and uncovering) (2019) „Pirati mjekërrzi“ (2020) - "The Blackbeard pirate" „Arushi dhe Bretkosa“ (2020) - "The Bear and the Frog" (2020) - Tv puppet show „E drejtë apo e gabuar“ (2021 – 2022) - "Right or wrong" (2021 - 2022) „Bota e përrallave“ (2023) - " The world of fairytales" (2023) Tv Drama

I was granted achievement award for the show "The Bear and the Frog" by AJM (Association of Journalists of Macedonia), UNDP and Swiss Embassy for Educational and Creative approach for raising awareness in children regarding the environment. Some of the my shows are accessible in the following YouTube Page: UC36A3Uy9VCn37qqhV4bh_MQ

Animated illustration:

I worked with the following artists - Antonio Arangelovic (illustrator), Marina Avramovic (editor) and Adem Karaga (actor) and produced an animated illustration by visualizing the first chapter of my book "A dying world". You can see this in the next link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LR9q8EhqRs&t=1s

Media Coverage: MRT (Macedonian Radio Television) interviewed both of my books which can be found in the following links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oltm8DhzL1M&t=617s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4yImvpq2A

I understand the importance of neutrality and verifiability on Wikipedia and would appreciate the community’s help in ensuring that the page meets all guidelines and standards.

Thank you for your time and assistance.

Best regards, Asdren Çeliku Asdrenceliku (talk) 02:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Most of these sources are not suitable. Self published sources are avoided as much as possible, while videos and interviews involving you don't help the claim for notability either. We will need indepth and independent coverage of you, like ones from news articles, books or other trustworthy sources, preferably not routine coverage like announcement of upcoming projects or being appointed to certain roles. Sources doesn't have to be in English. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 04:19, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Tutwakhamoe: Can you refer to a policy which substantiates the claim that "interviews... don't help the claim for notability"? It seems to me that that is not correct, and that interviews may, depending on the context and source, be relevant when considering notability. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Interviews do not establish notability, as by definition an interview is the person speaking about themselves. Anyone can claim anything in an interview. We want to know what others say about you, not what you say about yourself. 331dot (talk) 11:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

The question was "Can you refer to a policy which substantiates the claim...". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Tungatjeta, Asdren. You are very strongly discouraged from writing about yourself in Wikipedia: see autobiography. This is mostly because it is difficult to write in a neutral tone about oneself, or to judge what is neutral.

Note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.

I'll also point out that, even without the added difficulty of writing about yourself, most editors who try to create an article before they have spent a considerable time learning about Wikipedia's processes and requirements, usually have a frustrating and miserable experience. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 11:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Suspicious user

User:Réalgard has done many edits which seem to be all minor edits which could have been one edit and has gone to edit Russo-ukraine and I/P immediately after getting EC. Is there anything to be done or just normal activity? AlexBobCharles (talk) 11:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

This isn't really a Help desk question and is more of a matter for WP:ANI if you believe that the user has done something specifically wrong. This would also require notifying the user on their talk page.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I did not want to go to ANI or notify them because I suspected their activity wasn't anything illegal. I was just wondering if this kind of activity would be actionable. Clarityfiend's reply was what I was looking for and your reply was unhelpful. AlexBobCharles (talk) 12:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

These are simply the edits I wanted to make. Réalgard (talk) 11:15, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Inflating one's edit count may be a little silly, but is not a crime. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:57, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you AlexBobCharles (talk) 12:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Mohamed Siad Barre

In our entry we say that Mohamed Siad Barre was born around 1909 in Shilabo, but we have very little evidence and sources. Most references claim that he was born in 1919 in Lugh Ganane. 2A02:B025:F04:AC6A:36A9:5F5A:BBB2:AB43 (talk) 11:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

IP editor. There was a prior discussion about this at Talk:Siad Barre#Birth date, which didn't seem to get anywhere. Perhaps you would comment there and add the references you have found so that the article can be updated. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull There are several results for his birthplace as Ganane and his birth year as 1919. However there are few sources that explain these discrepancies ([2] ; [3] ; [4]). Are they enough to resolve this doubt? Are they authoritative references? 2A02:B025:F04:AC6A:36A9:5F5A:BBB2:AB43 (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Please don't just give us Google books links, especially ones in Italian. If you want to cite a book, give us the proper bibliographic information: author, title, date, publisher, and page number, and (if it's likely to be difficult to find) a brief quotation. ColinFine (talk) 13:54, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I've no idea, I'm not an expert in the topic, which is why I suggested you post on its Talk Page (linked above), not here. Our article does already provide a partial explanation. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:56, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@ColinFine @Michael D. Turnbull I asked on the related talk page, but usually in lesser-known topics it's difficult to get an answer. 2A02:B025:F00:878:18C9:5F10:2477:804D (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Can someone reply to my question?

Can someone reply to my question here Talk:Siad Barre#Birthplace and birthdate? 2A02:B025:F05:41BB:39C2:E7FC:26BD:5683 (talk) 10:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Misapplication of 'the' in description of an individual

Can someone point me to where in the MOS the misapplication of 'the' in describing an individual is described? The example I remember is something like 'musician Bob Dylan' is preferred to 'the musician Bob Dylan', although I haven't been able to locate it. Thanks. Masato.harada (talk) 16:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

That's the essay WP:FALSETITLE. Though it should be noted that this isn't part of the Wikipedia manual of style — opinions vary on this one, and where editors disagree the status quo should remain. Just its mention here might trigger another debate. Popcornfud (talk) 16:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Trouble Submitting Translated Article

I've translated an article from Persian to English and I'm having trouble submitting it for review. I can't find the submit button. I'm a returning editor who used to be able to translate articles directly. Can someone please help me?"

Article in Persian Article in English Neginghaderii (talk) 20:33, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Koorosh Ghorbani

I believe I should also change the name to Koorosh Ghorbani.

thanks for helping me in advance Neginghaderii (talk) 20:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Neginghaderii: I've added the {{Draft article}} to your draft, which you can now use to submit your draft for review. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 01:15, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I've submitted the draft. It's a short translation from Persian to English. I remember being able to publish direct translations before. Would it be possible to get it approved quickly? Neginghaderii (talk) 06:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Neginghaderii en:Wikipedia sometimes has different policies compared to other-language versions, which is why using the WP:AfC process is a good idea if you haven't edited here in a while. In particular, we have very strict rules for biogrpahies of living people, to do with inline citations for every fact that might be disputed. At present, I see no citation in your draft for his DOB or that he was influenced by his father. I haven't checked your sources to see if you could back these parts up. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I’m working on a draft article about Koorosh Ghorbani, an Iranian trial motorcyclist, and I’m having some trouble with sourcing. He is well-known in Iran and has been featured extensively in Persian media, which are reliable sources in his home country. These sources were sufficient for his Persian Wikipedia page, but I’m unsure how to use them as references on the English Wikipedia.

I know Koorosh Ghorbani personally, and I have access to official documents and translated certificates of his championships. He has participated in international races, including two in Mexico and two in Italy, and I might be able to find links to these events. However, most of the detailed coverage of his career is in Persian.

Can anyone advise on how I can use Persian sources on English Wikipedia? Additionally, is there a way to upload and use translated documents as sources? We’re aiming to introduce him to an international audience, and having an English Wikipedia page is important for this purpose.

Thank you in advance for any guidance! Neginghaderii (talk) 05:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

You can use sources in other languages on en.wiki, the WP:Reliable sources guideline does not assess based on language used. However, it seems doubtful official documents and certificates would be reliable sources. You should also read WP:COI, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle to advertise to various audiences. CMD (talk) 05:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Neginghaderii, our software has a translation tool, but some time ago (can't remember when), it was disabled or restricted because its users were producing extremely poor-quality translations, almost as bad as machine translation. Perhaps you used this feature before it was disabled, and now you can't because of the changes to the tool? Nyttend (talk) 22:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. Yes, I remember using the translation tool in the past, which is why I was surprised when I encountered difficulties this time. I want to emphasize that I’m Iranian, and Persian is my first language, so the translation I provided is a careful and accurate one, not a rough machine translation.

I’m fully aware of the limitations of machine translations and have taken care to ensure that the text is high quality and faithfully represents the original content. I’m hoping to get some guidance on how to move forward with submitting this translation.

Thank you for your assistance! Neginghaderii (talk) 05:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Embed hatnote in page-top template, one transclusion only

Each of the reference desks transcludes a page-top template, Wikipedia:Reference desk/header, taking a parameter to provide desk-specific information; e.g., Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science transcludes {{Wikipedia:Reference desk/header|WP:RD/S}}. The humanities desk has a separate hatnote:

"WP:RD/H" redirects here. For the template header used in all areas of the reference desks, see WP:Reference desk/Header.

Any idea how to embed this in the humanities-only component of the page-top template? I've never understood how to edit variable content in templates more complicated than {{{1}}}, {{{2}}}, {{{3}}}, etc. Nyttend (talk) 21:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

You can test the pagename like this:

{{#ifeq:{{SUBPAGENAME}}|Humanities|{{redirect|WP:RD/H|the template header used in all areas of the [[WP:REFD|reference desks]]|WP:Reference desk/Header}}}}

But I don't think Wikipedia:Reference desk/header deserves a hatnote at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. It's not user-facing and only gets around 8 page views per month. Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities gets around 10,000. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

The hatnote was added four days ago without discussion.[5] I have removed it.[6] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

August 11

Infobox video game and DISPLAYTITLE

I've been trying to make the DISPLAYTITLE of Shapez 2 lowercase, and {{DISPLAYTITLE:''shapez 2''}} works, but only if the {{Infobox video game}} is removed. When I readded the infobox, an error message of shows up. I tried following the instructions, but it still doesn't work. Could someone with more experience in DISPLAYTITLEs take a look? Thanks. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

In the infobox template set |italic title=no

—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Trappist the monk that worked, thanks! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit reversion on Land Rover Defender (L663)

Hello.

Recently I began a new section on the Land Rover Defender (L663) page with the options available. However, it was reverted by user Frost since it was advertising material. If you look at the edit it is clearly not advertisement, with me just quoting the names of the options available. How can I solve the issues within my edit, and get it back on the article, or just revert the reversion?

Thanks, A1C6. A1C6 (talk) 08:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

A1C6, Wikipedia is not a sales brochure for the Land Rover Defender or any other commercial product. Promotional editing on Wikipedia is forbidden. Readers can go to the Land Rover website for banal and routine information like a list of available colors, wheels and seat upholstery options. Cullen328 (talk) 08:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I do understand that, however I am not listing the options as a sales brochure - I am documenting them for the future, as far configurators are rarely properly accessible on archives like the Wayback machine, thus an important detail of this vehicle will be lost to time - which juxtaposes the entire goal of Wikipedia. A1C6 (talk) 09:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

We believe you, and that your intent is entirely benign. Nevertheless, it is probably too fine a level of detail for the article, or at least arguably it is. You could open a thread on the article's talk page, and see if you can convince the reverter, or get a consensus to include the material from other uses. My guess is that that'd be futile, but you never know I suppose. (As I'm sure you can understand, we do have a pretty quick trigger for stuff that looks like promotional material, even if it's not, because we get a lot of stuff that is promotional material and it's a constant game of whack-a-mole.) Herostratus (talk) 10:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

The key to this lies in the Wikipedia:Golden Rule which is whether trivia such as the available colors, wheels and seat upholstery options have been reported on with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. Do you have those sources? Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

That Golden Rule thing is interesting, however the details I am copying from the Landrover configurator are purely the specs and option names - not material convincing one to buy something. A1C6 (talk) 21:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Another way to look at this, which concurs with what Shantavira said, is that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. The chances are that such details have been discussed only by the manufacturer or associates, and so do not belong in the article. ColinFine (talk) 16:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

US Interests Section Havana Cuba

Dear Wikipedia - my parent's firm was the architect on the US Interests Section in Havana Cuba ending in 1997. They held a contract with the US Dept of State, OBO. This is of great importance to my parents as they are Cuban born and their firm was a minority disadvantaged business and the most meaningful project in their firms' history. I would like to add their firm name to the respective Wikipedia pages and request your assistance. Please let me know how I can assist.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Terri 99.151.49.12 (talk) 15:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

You'd have to demonstrate that your parents' firm is wikinotable to warrant a mention, and should you decide to do this, you should disclose your conflict of interest. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

A subject does not need to meet our notability criteria to be mentioned in an article on a different topic. But the mention does need to be relevant, and supported by a reliable source. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Fix the dignitaries of Closing Ceremony Paris 2024

Can you fix and correct the dignitaries of Closing Ceremony Paris 2024 Olympics? President of the French Republic Emmanuel Macron and the President of the International Olympic Committee Thomas Bach. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 19:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I guess you refer to 2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony#Dignitaries in attendance, but please clarify what you want changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

...and please make your request on Talk:2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

August 12

Delete a page on wikipedia

Hello , you need to delete a page on wikipedia becasue its not true story and its making a lot of noise in public! 95.86.40.182 (talk) 00:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

OK! I'll do it right now! Uporządnicki (talk) 00:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh, did you have some special page in mind? Or will just any page do? Uporządnicki (talk) 00:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Just read all eight million and delete the one which isn't true. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

 The confused Magic 8-Ball says: which article? Facepalm - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 01:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

DELETE MY ACCOUNT

Hello, I just created a Wikipedia account because I thought I would be able to bookmark articles of interest to me within my account, rather than cluttering up my computer with a lot of bookmarks, for which I often get told that I'm running out of space on my computer, etc. So, since bookmarking articles within my account does not appear to be an option, I would like to delete my account altogether since I just created the account and have no intention of editing any articles. Please advise what I need to do in order to delete my account.

Thank you,

BRomer99 BRomer99 (talk) 01:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

BRomer99 for attribution reasons, accounts cannot be deleted. Since you have not made any significant edits, you can simply log out and never log in again. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 01:26, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@BRomer99:You can use your user page or a user subpage to hold your collection of bookmarks. Just edit the page and add links. Organize that page any way you want. -Arch dude (talk) 01:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Others can see those pages. For a private list which is easier to make, you could use your watchlist and view it at Special:Watchlist/edit which gives an alphabetical list of the page names. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Assistance Needed with Sourcing for Draft Article on Koorosh Ghorbani

Hi everyone, I’m working on a draft article about Koorosh Ghorbani, an Iranian trial motorcyclist, and I’m having some trouble with sourcing. He is well-known in Iran and has been extensively covered in Persian media, which are considered reliable sources in his home country. These sources were sufficient for his Persian Wikipedia page, but I’m unsure how to properly reference them on the English Wikipedia. I know Koorosh Ghorbani personally and have access to official documents and translated certificates of his championships. He has participated in international races, including two in Mexico and two in Italy, and I might be able to find links to these events. However, most of the detailed coverage of his career is in Persian. Can anyone advise on how to use Persian sources on English Wikipedia? Additionally, is there a way to upload and use translated documents as sources? We’re aiming to introduce him to an international audience, and having an English Wikipedia page is crucial for this purpose. Thank you in advance for any guidance! Neginghaderii (talk) 05:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Koorosh Ghorbani.   Maproom (talk) 05:53, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Neginghadeni. Non-English sources are perfectly acceptable in English Wikipedia, if there are not English-language sources of equal quality. The sources still need to meet English Wikipedia's criteria for reliability; and most of them also need to be independent of Ghorbani - anything written, published, or commissioned by him or any of his associates, or based on a press release or interview, may be used in only limited ways (see WP:PRIMARY) and will not contribute to establishing that he meets the criteria of notability. When citing foreign-language sources it is helpful to include a translation of the title, and perhaps of a relevant quotation from the source - see NONENG.

Sources do not have to be available online, as long as they are published so a reader can in principle consult them (eg by ordering a copy from a major library). Unpublished materials, on the other hand, may never by used as source for a Wikipedia article, irrespective of their provenance.

If you know Ghorbani personally, then Wikipedia regards you as having a conflict of interest. This does not stop you from writing about him, but you should declare this on your user page, and be aware of the pitfalls in writing about somebody you know. ColinFine (talk) 08:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I’m a photographer specializing in sporting events, and through my work, I’ve gotten to know many Iranian and world champions personally. I’ve even interviewed world champions. My most recent project involved covering the World Champion Trial GP in Belgium. This experience gives me a unique perspective, allowing me to write accurate and well-informed articles about athletes like Koorosh Ghorbani.

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I understand the importance of sourcing and will remove any parts of the article that are not supported by reliable sources. I would greatly appreciate it if you could take a look at the draft again. Instead of rejecting it, could you please help modify or suggest changes that would make it suitable for publication? Your guidance would be invaluable in ensuring that the article meets Wikipedia's standards.

Thank you in advance for your support. Neginghaderii (talk) 12:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Neginghaderii: It's good that you have expertise, but on Wikipedia expertise isn't really relevant, becauase you cannot write what you know, you must write about what published sources say.

Your draft wasn't rejected, it was declined. If it was rejected, that means you should give up and move on to something else. If it's declined, that means the reviewer thinks it may be suitable for publication with improvements.

I looked it over, made a few minor changes. It's pretty good as a stub article. Can you flesh it out a little? Most of the sources don't really provide any significant coverage of Khoorosh Gorbani, they just mention him. I suspect that's why the reviewer declined it. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Templates, Prekmurje Slovene

Hello! There is something wrong with some templates and references. I can't find the errors. Doncsecz^talk 08:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't see any obvious error, so you'll need to be clearer about what problem you're seeing. ColinFine (talk) 08:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@ColinFine: {{cite book}}: Empty citation (help): Check |isbn= value: checksum (help) or {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help): External link in |website= (help) These will appear after saving. Doncsecz^talk 08:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Doncsecz~enwiki The error messages themselves have wikilinks to help pages, which is where you should look. In large articles like Prekmurje Slovene it can sometimes be tricky to find the correct place to fix the problems. I'm going to start tidying up that article and you'll be able to see my edits there later, assuming I can fix the problems. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

.... now done. The article still needs cleanup work. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Clarification Needed: Adding External Link to UAE's Commission for Academic Accreditation (CAA) Website

Hello,

I recently received an automated warning about potentially spamming when I tried to add external links to multiple Wikipedia pages. The links in question point to the official website of the UAE’s Commission for Academic Accreditation (CAA), which is the Federal Government’s quality assurance agency for higher education.

I work at a college in the UAE, and we undergo annual audits by the CAA. The accreditation status of programs and institutions can change frequently, and the only authoritative source for the current status is the CAA’s official website. I’ve been adding this link to various Wikipedia pages related to UAE institutions to provide accurate and up-to-date information.

Here’s why this link is crucial:

• The CAA website is the definitive source for the accreditation status of UAE higher education institutions and programs.
• Accreditation status can change annually, with some programs and institutions having their licenses revoked. The CAA's website is the only way to verify the current status.
• If a program or institution is not listed as active on the CAA’s website, the Ministry of Education (MoE) will not stamp or recognize the certificates issued by that institution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elrashid.co (talk • contribs) 09:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

For example, the CAA website lists detailed information for institutions like the Higher Colleges of Technology, including the status of specific programs (e.g., active, inactive).

I have made these edits under my account, and you can view my contributions here: User contributions for Elrashid.co.

Given this context, I believe that adding these links is important for maintaining accurate and reliable information on Wikipedia. Could you please advise on how to proceed without triggering the spam warning? I also want to ensure that my edits are compliant with Wikipedia’s guidelines on external links. Elrashid.co (talk) 09:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Elrashid.co: As you say the warning was automated, so you needn't be too troubled by it. The additions look good to me.

That said, the formatting of what you added was not in our preferred style; instead of a call to action, you should include the link as a reference, so, for example, instead of

Higher Colleges of Technology (HCT) is accredited by the Commission for Academic Accreditation (CAA), the UAE Federal Government's quality assurance agency for higher education. To check the CAA's active accredited programs at Higher Colleges of Technology (HCT), visit this link.

you would add:

Higher Colleges of Technology is accredited by the Commission for Academic Accreditation (CAA), the UAE Federal Government's quality assurance agency for higher education.

References

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing);

Thank you for your prompt response and helpful guidance. I appreciate your clarification on the preferred formatting for external links. I’ll make sure to revise the edits accordingly by including the CAA website as a reference rather than a direct call to action.

I understand the importance of following Wikipedia's guidelines, and I’ll be careful to format future contributions in line with your advice. If there’s anything else I should be aware of, please feel free to let me know.

Thanks again for your assistance.

Best regards,

Elrashid Elrashid.co (talk) 13:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

edit help

we need to add some information in our wiki page but after adding this content its rejected 103.175.62.181 (talk) 09:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

That is because this edit was blatant promotion, which is not allowed. Wikipedia has no interest in what you are deligted to share. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 09:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

You also have a WP:Conflict of interest, so should not be editing that page at all, but you can make suggestions on the talk page - Arjayay (talk) 10:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Notability

Hello. I have a question about notability for topics that do have sources, but are debatably notable to have their own articles. In particular, I am looking at articles in the theme of Graffiti in Houston, Graffiti in Washington, D.C., and Graffiti in Chicago. I had opened a discussion for deletion, but they were removed as "size is not a reason to delete an article", but my argument was not about size alone - graffiti in these areas is not notable in the way they are in places like New York or Philadelphia, which have effected graffiti history and culture significantly in a way which has led to such being discussed in academic journals.

The fact that there are news articles of graffiti in these towns helps them fit in general notabiltiy guidelines, but this seems very problematic given that I am sure I could find news articles saying "someone did graffiti" in every city in the world and quite a few small towns. Is there a better way to establish notability for this kind of subject? -- NotCharizard ^🗨 11:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

One preferred method for dealing with subjects on borderline notability that fit together in a common theme is to place them in context within a larger article. Infrastructure of the Brill Tramway is the classic excellent example of this. For your case, these articles are all in Category:Graffiti in the United States by city, which has no main article yet. Graffiti in the United States exists, with two topographic lvl2 subheadings and a third lvl3 under § Regulations. Maybe you could incorporate the content of the inadequate articles (like the particularly poor Graffiti in Washington, D.C.) into subheadings to provide a place for the information inside its larger context, and for cities that do merit a standalone article, summarise them in context and provide a section hatnote linking the existing article.

In other words, merge as appropriate. Folly Mox (talk) 11:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

translation of the Persian article for Koorosh Ghorbani

Hi, I’m working on the translation of the Persian article for Koorosh Ghorbani. Someone helped me change the name, but after I pasted the code for the article, it remains a draft without a submit button. I’m also concerned that the references, which are sourced from the Persian article, might not be recognized as reliable because they are not in English. Could someone please help with this? I want to make sure the sources are properly acknowledged and that the article can be submitted correctly. Thank you!

Draft talk:Koorosh Ghorbani Article in Persian : کوروش قربانی Neginghaderii (talk) 13:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

@Neginghaderii, you deleted the submission template in this edit. TSventon has added it back for you. 57.140.16.8 (talk) 14:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Neginghaderii, I have added back the draft templates, so you should be able to resubmit it. However the previous version was rejected not because of foreign language sources, but because the article is a WP:BLP (biography of a living person) and there was unsourced information. The article still has unsourced information, such as the date of birth, which should be cited or removed. TSventon (talk) 14:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out the issues. I’ll remove the date of birth right away. Could you please let me know if there’s anything else that needs to be removed? I’ve already taken out another part that didn’t have a source.

I have a question: isn’t Persian Wikipedia considered a source? For example, the date of birth is listed and accepted there.

Thank you for your help! 92.54.250.108 (talk) 06:21, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I understand that neutrality is key when writing for Wikipedia. However, if I weren't interested in this sport, I wouldn't even be aware of these athletes' existence, let alone know enough to write about them. Having some background information helps me ensure that they are indeed notable and well-known in their field.

I’ve removed some parts of the article and would appreciate any further suggestions or help you can provide. Thank you again for your guidance and support. 92.54.250.108 (talk) 06:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Neginghaderii/92.54.250.108, Wikipedia is not a reliable source, no matter which language it is in. Reading WP:USERGEN may help you understand why. 57.140.16.8 (talk) 13:36, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Each claim in the article is supported by Persian sources, and I'm translating content from Iranian news outlets. 92.54.250.108 (talk) 19:19, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Ben Gurion Canal page revival

Many months ago a page that had been of some controversy because of the ongoing conflict in the middle east as well as it seems some "anti"anti-Israeli sentiment/pushback, was quietly purged from Wikipedia. To my understanding page regarding the "Ben Gurion Canal" was deemed a "conspiracy" & not factual, was then put up for vote & deleted.

I have recently come across a declassified memo from the US Office of Science & Technology Information, posted & available on their website OSTI.gov that outlines a very real proposal of said Canal, thus bringing to an end of this project actually being just here-say & conspiracy.

I believe this information as well as the former Wiki page has relevant, concerning information that is of vital importance that the public should be aware of & is of journalistic & historic significance.

Having it wiped from the halls of Wikipedia has done nothing but lead credence that this proposed idea was nothing more then a crackpot scheme to undermine & defame "Israel".

All that being said I believe it would be in the best interest of the public & Wikipedia to restore this page, include the document I will link below & lock the page (or otherwise restrict editing/deletion)

I would also like to propose that any page relating to conflicting states & said "conflicts" be given additional scrutiny before any deletions & major edits be performed.

That being said one of the arguments of the pages deletion was that "it was a proposed project & it was not built".

Well history, the internet along with wikipedia is full of Government (& others) projects that never came to fruition, but they are still both of historic & journalistic significance.

Atlantropa, Project Carryall, Cross Florida Barge Canal, Bering Dam, Qattara Depression Project, Project 2025.

I could go on & on about different things that never came to be or are still just proposals but still are worth a page here. The Ben Gurion Canal is just that.

Please reinstate & lock the page so no one deletes history while everyone else is looking in another direction.

Thank you for your help!

https://www.osti.gov/opennet/servlets/purl/453701.pdf LtCdrLaForge (talk) 17:55, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not base articles on primary-source documents. To establish that this topic meets Wikipedia notability requirements you would need to show signioficant coverage in secondary reliable sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd add that I'm not even finding a deleted page by this name. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 18:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I think they're talking about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Gurion Canal Project. DanCherek (talk) 18:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok. So maybe you can answer this. why has any reference to the canal only been scrubbed from the english Wiki?

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proyecto_del_Canal_Ben_Guri%C3%B3n

https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9_%D9%82%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A9_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86

https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terusan_Ben_Gurion

There are at least 7 pages I can find in various languages all have citations.

Listen I am not trying to call out some conspiracy, I am not ani-israeli, anti-zionist, pro-palestine. I am Pro-Human & I am Pro-History. I believe in the adage that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I would like to continue on my rant but this is not the platform for that.

I am just looking for a "good" explanation as to why this happened, prevent it from happening again & hopefully fix it. LtCdrLaForge (talk) 02:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

It happened because somebody nominated it for deletion and the participants in the discussion didn't think it satisfied the requirements in Wikipedia:Notability for significant coverage in reliable sources. Lots of articles are deleted for that reason. The discussion was open to everybody and listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2023 December 18#Ben Gurion Canal Project so it could be seen by people following deletion discussions. Wikipedia languages are edited independently and make their own policies. I don't know the policies for the languages with an article, or whether their article satisfies those policies, but many languages have less strict policies than the English Wikipedia. Ben Gurion Canal Project (Q120703821) currently shows eight languages with an article. Some of them were based on the English article when it existed. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Ben Gurion Canal Project wasn't "quietly purged". It was nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Gurion Canal Project 18 December 2023. The top of the article displayed a big box about it for a week with a link to the discussion, similar to this on another article. After the normal time, seven days, the discussion was closed. It was decided to delete the article. The discussion remains visible to everybody. The article called it an alleged Israeli project. Your source is an American document with no mention of Israeli knowledge of the idea. The source had its own section in the article and was mentioned in the deletion discussion. It's still mentioned in Project Plowshare and Peaceful nuclear explosion but with no claim that it was an Israeli project. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

User interface

Hallo WIKI

I've been using the wiki for many years. What came as a novity already a few years ago was/is the terrible little square which contains the content and which is stuck in one place (the upper left hand "corner") while scrolling the page up and down. This bothers me so much that I've been limiting using the Wiki to a minimum and opting for a different app to get the information I want to read.

My hope is that you either eliminate it or make it possible for a reader to get rid of it while I am reading a page.

Thank you for your input.

Wiki reader. 2001:569:744C:900:A9D1:65BA:70CC:8C8A (talk) 18:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Are you perhaps using the Wikipedia "app"? If so, simply use a browser instead. Using Ghostery and not logging in to Wikipedia, I see no little square stuck in any one place, whether I choose "mobile" or "desktop" view. -- Hoary (talk) 00:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I see a box with as described if I log out and "Contents" is hidden from the sidebar. It's part of the current default skin Vector 2022. If I log in then I instead see a fixed page-wide bar at the top in Vector 2022. Logged in users can select other skins at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. I prefer the former default Vector legacy. None of the other skins have such a box. They display contents as part of the article itself. The skin affects many other things. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:07, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Track listings for Soundtrack section of films

Hello. According to WP:TRACKLIST, the track listing data for albums can be sourced to liner notes as a primary source without explicit citations. Would this also apply for track listings in a Soundtrack section of a film? I see examples of this for films Wish I Was Here, Summer Lovers and others. Opinions welcome! Assambrew (talk) 18:20, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Disappointing that nobody has answered me yet, but I see you folks have your hands full here with difficult questions and difficult people. Kudos for your patience! ...

I'll be more specific: I tried to add a Soundtrack section for the film The Lords of Flatbush, but it was reverted because I didn't cite any sources. What I added was all from the liner notes of the album cover. Shouldn't that be acceptable as a primary source without explicit citations, just as it is for regular record albums? Assambrew (talk) 16:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:Advert has content but comes up blank

Whenever I try to load Template:Advert I get a blank HTML page. Viewing the source in Chrome view-source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Advert reveals that the page source is all there. Trying the actual editing link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Advert&action=edit also comes up blank.

Is this happening for anyone else? I noticed it when an article with this template wasn't displaying anything for that template. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I can't reproduce this (although, of course for me https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Advert&action=edit acts a bit unusually since it's template protected). Based on other experiences, it may be worth trying turning off any ad block/content you have running, since I've had some ad blockers block aggressive on things like the box-Advertclass in <table class="box-Advert plainlinks metadata ambox ambox-content ambox-Advert" role="presentation">. Skynxnex (talk) 20:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Aha. After using AdNauseam for years without any issues (other than installing updates since Google banned it from the Chrome store), this is the first false positive I've had with it. I disabled it on Wikipedia and the page appeared. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

August 13

Problem while fixing Errors

I am working on a backlog category Category:CS1 errors: URL.There is an article which shows that there are issues in two reference. but when i open edit windows, its just gone but if i again open article, it shows that there are issues in reference. The Article: Alive Alive-O!
–– kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 02:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Article title corrected -- John of Reading (talk) 06:49, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@KEmel49: The {{Album chart}} template builds its own references based on the information supplied in the other parameters. According to Template:Album chart/doc#Supports, for Italy and Spain, it was trying to build a reference from the "artist" and "album" parameters; these were missing, causing the invalid URL error. The template was not expecting to see a fully-formed reference as its third unnamed parameter; although they were visible in the edit window, they were ignored by the template coding.

I've chosen to restore an old version of the album chart without the extra entries added in December 2023. I was not convinced by the references that were visible in the edit window. And when I added the missing parameters and allowed the {{Album chart}} template to build its own version of the Italy and Spain references, they did not verify the supplied chart positions. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Your edit of JD Vance

Why did you remove the awards and commendations that he received in the Marines? Are you trying to censor the truth? If so, that is despicable. 2601:647:4400:D8B0:AC99:D7B6:487B:5C91 (talk) 02:43, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Join the ongoing discussion at Talk:JD_Vance RudolfRed (talk) 02:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

How do i remove statements that persecute based on religion?

How do i remove slanderous false statements that are solely intended to persecute a company because of the owners religion? When I try editors blindly deny the edits. Newsbuffstuff (talk) 05:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Can you please provide article name.-- kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 06:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Probably Desert Tech.   Maproom (talk)

Newsbuffstuff, the statements that you tried to remove from the article accurately summarize what reliable sources like CBS News and the Salt Lake City Tribune have said about that company. That is exactly what we do on Wikipedia. You have no basis to remove that content. You clearly have a Conflict of interest regarding this company and should not edit that article. What is your connection with User:DTNEY1? Cullen328 (talk) 07:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Rename the page title and url

Hi, I am working as a senior webmaster and designer in Liwa College. As our college name has been changed from Emirates college of technology to Liwa College. I want to update my college name in Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirates_College_of_Technology But there is no option to edit the name. I cant see any move or more option to change or update the page name. Can you please help or guide me to solve this issue.

Thanks Liwa College (talk) 06:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I've moved the article to Liwa College and added a reference for this being the new name. Unfortunately I've also had to block your account as a breach of WP:ORGNAME which prohibits usernames that unambiguously represent a company. I appreciate you likely created this account in good faith to make this suggested change but we don't generally allow usernames like this. There are instructions on your usertalk page on how to request a rename, perhaps to something like "<person name> at Liwa College." Also as outlined on your userpage, you need to be aware of both the policy on paid editing and the policy on conflicts of interest. Again, you do seem to be here in good faith so please don't take this list of policies as a criticism: there are simply some fairly strict rules for how representatives of companies are allowed to contribute to their own company pages. Happy to discuss further if required, after you've renamed your account. -- Euryalus (talk) 07:20, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

How to Properly Integrate Cited References for New Technological Advances in Existing Articles?

Hello Community,

I am working on updating Wikipedia articles related to building and construction technologies, with a focus on new methodologies impacting deck repair. My objective is to enrich these articles with updated, reliable information and ensure all additions are substantiated by authoritative sources.

As I aim to enhance the content quality, I seek advice on several aspects:

1. Verifiability and Reliable Sources: What are the best practices for verifying and integrating sources, particularly new ones from rapidly evolving fields? How can I ensure these sources meet the community's standards for reliability?
2. Seamless Integration of New Data: When introducing significant new information to well-structured articles, what strategies should I employ to maintain the article’s coherence and neutrality?
3. Advanced Citation Practices: Are there specific citation techniques or common pitfalls I should be aware of, especially for citing online studies or technological advancements?

For a broader perspective and detailed analysis, here is a link to my project's data Spreadsheet with Technological Advances in Deck Repair. Additionally, further information about our methodologies can be found on our project’s webpage at DeckRepairLittleRock.

I appreciate your guidance to help me make responsible and effective contributions to Wikipedia’s knowledgeable community.

Thank you for your support! Deckrepairlittlerock (talk) 06:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I have blocked your account for your promotional username indicating shared use. Wikipedia accounts are for individuals only, not for businesses. Advertising, marketing and promotion are not permitted on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 07:36, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Navbox and sidebar consistency

Hello there fellow ladies and gentlemen, I would like to ask your opinions as to the information concerning navboxes and sidebars, (assuming that there exists both for a particular topic, say Discrimination) should they link to the same number of articles or not? If not, which should link to more articles?

Atakes Ris (talk) 12:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Atakes Ris I think that some guidance is given at WP:CLN, especially WP:BIDI. However, I may not fully understand your question, so please be more specific if the links don't help sufficiently. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

For example, the articles related to Geography have a sidebar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Geography_sidebar) and a navbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Geography_topics), however the number of articles in the sidebar is less than that of the navbox.

Another case, the articles related to Discrimination have a sidebar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Discrimination_sidebar) and a navbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Discrimination) as well, but the number of articles in both are the same.

So I would like to ask, among the general consensus of Wikipedians or otherwise, should a sidebar have the same amount of articles as its respective navbox (assuming that both exist)?

Thanks! Atakes Ris (talk) 13:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

How can I protect important information from a vandal?

User:Mellk is vandalizing the article, removing important information with reliable source[7]. I think that he is not going to stop vandalize. So what should I do? Пинча (talk) 12:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Пинча Firstly, removing another editor's content under these circumstances is not vandalism, which has a very specific meaning here as you can read at that link. Melik's edit summary pointed out that the new information should not be placed in the WP:LEAD of the article, which is supposed to summarize what appears later. Hence, if the same information is not in the body text, it should not be solely in the lead. Please follow our normal WP:BRD process and discuss the issue on the Talk Page of the article at Talk:Arkady Babchenko. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

So User:Mellk could have improved it, couldn't he? Removing important information with reliable source is vandalism. Пинча (talk) 13:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

If information is 'important', it needs to be discussed in depth in the article body, and then possibly summarised in the article lede. As it is, you have provided nothing that suggests that this nickname is of any significance at all, instead merely citing a single source which mentions it in passing. I suggest you find further sources that discuss it, and then list them on the article talk page, where their relevance to the article can be assessed. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

If you have questions about why an editor made the choices they made, the best thing you can do is ask them about it in a non-confrontational manner. There was no need to escalate this to this page. DonIago (talk) 13:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Pincha, Wikipedia is a collaborative project. Different editors can and do have different opinions as to what is important, and what belongs where in an article.

To insist that you are right, and that anybody who disagrees with you is a vandal, is not collaborative. Please discuss the issue with the other editor, according to WP:BRD. ColinFine (talk) 13:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Removing important information with reliable source is vanalism. Now the vandal accused me in edit war because I reverted his vanalism. Пинча (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

You are edit warring. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

No, I reverted obvious vandalism, improved the article, and asked here how to protect the article from vandals and avoid edit war. Пинча (talk) 14:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

WP:EW: An editor who repeatedly restores their preferred version is edit warring, regardless of whether those edits are justifiable. Claiming "My edits were right, so it wasn't edit warring" is not a valid defense. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

You are correct. It is what User:Mellk and User:Theroadislong are doing. Пинча (talk) 14:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

You can do this "I know you are but what am I" routine all you want; a stubborn refusal to talk to other editors on an equal footing will just mean that you don't succeed in getting your edit made. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:21, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

User:Mellk called another vandal, User:Theroadislong who reverted even improved version. It is what I am talking about: they are just vandals and don't what to improve the article. Пинча (talk) 14:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

It has been pointed out to you several times now that disagreeing with you about what is relevant to an article is not "vandalism". Please stop accusing other editors of vandalism. Editors on Wikipedia are required to assume good faith of each other, which you are not doing. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

That person calls himself StarshinaZapasa in every social media.[8][9][10] Why can't it be stated in the article? Пинча (talk) 14:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I have no opinion on that. Maybe the information belongs in the article; maybe it doesn't, as not everything that is true is important enough to be noted on Wikipedia. I don't know, in this case. What I am saying is that you need to discuss these things in a constructive manner with other editors in order to reach WP:CONSENSUS and stop accusing them of vandalism. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

No, they need to discuss these things in a constructive manner with other editors in order to reach WP:CONSENSUS to avoid being accused of vandalism. Пинча (talk) 14:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Your insistence that anyone who disagrees with you is a vandal makes it less likely that your preferred version of the article will end up prevailing. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:19, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

It is not their own page and they cannot decide what is important not knowing the subject at all. Пинча (talk) 16:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

And it's not your page either, so you have to talk to people and don't get to sidestep that by pretending they're "vandals". AntiDionysius (talk) 16:53, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I did not 'call' anyone. I removed the social media name from the lead because it is not important enough to be mentioned in the first sentence. Also not mentioned as a nickname in the lead of ru:Бабченко, Аркадий Аркадьевич. Mellk (talk) 15:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

See how he is lying! He didn't just removed the information from the lead, he removed the information at all. It is called vandalism on Wikipedia. Пинча (talk) 16:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I quite literally removed it from the lead. But the continued personal attacks suggest that a block is needed until you understand the policies better. Vandalism has a very specific meaning as you have been told. Mellk (talk) 16:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

There is the obvious difference between moving from lead to another place, and removing at all. Don't speculate here. Пинча (talk) 16:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

how to create account

pasagott! 119.92.138.20 (talk) 13:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a special page for that. Please visit Special:CreateAccount. Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Updating company page

Hello! I've read various rules about updating data on your own company page. Ours is a bit out of date and I've gathered several links (to outside sources) to show progress that should be reflected on our page. Can someone tell me best way to submit these to a Wiki editor to update? Much appreciated. - Erin Ehbrown.writes (talk) 14:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

The best way to do this is to use the edit request wizard to place requests on the article's talk page. Remember to make these requests as precise as possible, and that all information you wish to insert must be verified by published sources, and preferably by sources wholly unconnected with the company. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 14:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ehbrown.writes Best practice is also to declare your WP:PAID status on your own userpage. See that link for how to do so. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Proper use of "van"

Hi, which of the two is correct:

• van Pelt, Robert Jan (2014). "Freemasonry and Judaism". In Bogdan, Henrik; Snoek, Jan A.M. (eds.). Handbook of Freemasonry. Brill Handbooks on Contemporary Religion. Brill. p. 197. ISBN 978-90-04-27312-2. Retrieved 12 August 2024.
• Pelt, Robert Jan van (2014). "Freemasonry and Judaism". In Bogdan, Henrik; Snoek, Jan A.M. (eds.). Handbook of Freemasonry. Brill Handbooks on Contemporary Religion. Brill. p. 197. ISBN 978-90-04-27312-2. Retrieved 12 August 2024.? tgeorgescu (talk) 15:33, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Tgeorgescu My understanding is that Van Pelt is a surname in which the "van" means "from". Hence the first of your versions seems better. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Agree. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

(ec) You need to add |authorlink=Robert Jan van Pelt. Once you have done so, either is "correct" depending on where you are, see van (Dutch). Wikipedia:Citing sources does not prescribe anything so you can do what you like as long as you are consistent within your article. —Kusma (talk) 15:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I asked the question at nl:Wikipedia:De kroeg. They replied that "last1=Pelt | first1=Robert Jan van" is correct. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

We had this question last year at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2023 September 5 § Sorting of Dutch names. The guidance is at WP:SUR, with backup guidance at this external source. I feel like I remember there being different answers depending on the nationality of the person in question: for Europeans, "van" / "von" is sorted into |first=; some North Americans have "Van" / "Von" (with initial capital) as the beginning of their surname. When there's doubt, I put "van" / "von" at the end of the forename. Folly Mox (talk) 17:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Dress code of gumboot dance

What they worn? 41.122.1.58 (talk) 18:38, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

This is incoherent. Are you asking a question about a certain article? 331dot (talk) 18:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Is the answer here Gumboot dance in which case the answer is wellies. Knitsey (talk) 18:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)