Talk:Gender-blind
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Comments 2003-2005
[edit]Is this just another term for "unisex"?
- Not really, because it explicitly removes any mention of gender. It's sort of like a "don't ask, don't care" policy. :) It just completely removes all the gender-based questions. They simply don't ask. So, while unisex means that it applies to or is used by both males and females, gender-blind means they don't know who uses it and it applies to anybody...which also allows for folks who don't fit easily under "male" or "female." Unisex usually carries the connotation of actually being duo-sex, if that makes sense. Gender-blind, however, goes against most tenets of heteronormativity, by not defining gender at all. Is that all not clear in the article? How can we tweak it to make it clearer? -- Paige 04:11, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- So unisex is to genderblind as bisexual is to pansexual?
- I think that makes it fundamentally a different word (with different connotations) describing the same thing. How now? Martin 19:20, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)
So this is just a dictionary entry?
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The article says: "The first gender-blind dorm in the United States opened in the fall of 2003 on the campus of Wesleyan University in Middletown, Connecticut." Now, what is a gender-blind dorm? Isn't this just an appartement building for students which is open for both sexes? Here in Germany this is the norm, and I would have expected this to be the same in the US. So, could somebody please explain? (I assume that a "dorm" in the US use is not (as in British English) a hall with meny beds, but a house with many single or double rooms. Is that correct?) Simon A. 7 July 2005 14:41 (UTC)
- Yes, it is exactly as you assume, only that a gender-blind dorm is not just open to "both sexes", but to "all genders" - and there are a few more than two, if one counts self-identification. I'd also not assume that things that are normal in Germany are necessarily normal in the USA, and vice versa. In case you haven't noticed, there are minor differences. -- AlexR 7 July 2005 16:42 (UTC)
- Yes, I know of course, there are differences. What I meant: Does the statement, that the first "gender-blind dorm" opened as late as in 2003 imply that the norm in the US still is to seperate dorms by gender, like, one building/floor for men, one for women? And would a homosexual student have problems? After all, I'd hope that nobody would gets asked for sexual orientation when applying for a dorm room. And if two students asked for a two-beds room together, would a dorm administration make problems if they were same sex (like: "Are you gay? Sorry that is not allowed.") or even opposite sex ("You can't share a room. That's sinful."). I mean this would be unthinkable in M<unich there I studied, and hence I would find it surprising if such things were common in the US, at least outside the Bible Belt. Simon A. 8 July 2005 10:02 (UTC)
- Sometimes it seems to me that the Bible Belt is a lot wider than it looks on most maps ;-)
- Seriously, I can't tell you all that much about the US campuses, being German myself, but I am under the impression that most housing is "sex-segregated". How much trouble two persons of the same sex would get asking for a room together probably depends on the university; opposite-sex (or different-gender) couples have, AFAIK a lot more trouble.
- BTW, this stuff might be unusual in German universities, but the place where the WikiMeet is held has a similar strikt "sex-segregated" room policy. And that's not even in Bavaria, but in Frankfurt/Main. -- AlexR 8 July 2005 10:40 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you all know, that pretty much all dorms in the USA are sex-segregated. It is extremely common-place for same-sex individuals to request rooms together and is often even encouraged. (So that one can room with a friend rather than a stranger.) On the other hand, most campuses do not allow opposite sex roommates, though there are floors where sex alternates by room. There are some campuses in the US where students are petitioning to have "sex-blind" room assignments, but the deal would probably be that two students would have to request such an assignment and would not just be randomly placed with another of the opposite sex. Is everyone clear on that now?
Unisex doesn't mean this in the UK
[edit]The term unisex means 'suitable for both sexes' in the UK [1]. The thing is, that information wouldn't fill a whole page, and therefore it wouldn't be appropriate to add it to the unisex page, but it is totally unrelated to 'gender-blindness' so it probably shouldn't go on this page. What do you think should be done?
I agree, unisex in Autralia means something for both sexes and after talking to a few people we ALL agreed that we thought uni was a contraction of universal
More than just dorm rooms!
[edit]'Gender-blind' applies to more than just dorm rooms for crying out loud!
Gender-blind Identity
[edit]So how do gender-blind people identify as? They wouldn't say male or female, would they, because they don't pay attention to gender. 122.106.157.85 (talk) 10:59, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Gender neutrality vs gender blind
[edit]It seems like both of these terms are quite new and not yet distinguished from eachother yet. I propose that we we and make these terms more distinguished. The term gender neutrality seems to me like it is part of the wider number of topics to do with not defining people by their sexual organs.. and maybe "Gender blind" is more specifically referring to an individual who identifies with this perspective?
I think It's really important to clearly distinguish these terms. I will work alittle on the articles today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.139.28 (talk) 15:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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