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  • Keep. I hear this all the time in locker rooms, even in college -- I suppose that sums up the maturity level of a lot of people... - Mark
  • Now that I saw coming. Keep - despite the subject, the game is quite real. -- Kizor 11:23, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • This concept appears to come from a single webpage. At least one other instance of this appears to have been posted by the author of that webpage. -- The Anome 11:05, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Are you sure? In the name of fairness, during my long quest for all things weird I've come upon this from several different sources, and a search reveals that people are actually playing it. Which doesn't make the subject any smarter, but we have a number of valid articles about less-than-smart things. -- Kizor 11:23, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • I'd have to agree, this appears to be propaganda rather than description. Delete. - Mib
  • PENIS. Keep. Useful, to some degree. -- orthogonal 11:32, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is a real game--my brother tried to introduce me. Widely known. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:24, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • PENIS. Keep. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 13:41, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep: Its a silly game played by adolescents all over the world in one form or another, the name may change but the game is the same, it exists Giano 13:41, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • *rolls eyes*. But keep. Ambivalenthysteria 13:49, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Exploding Boy 14:23, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep it. *sighs* Lyellin 14:26, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. It's disturbingly wide-spread. Spectatrix 16:12, 2004 Jul 14 (UTC)
You mean "big", don't you? "Wide-spread" refres to girls' naughty-bits. -- orthogonal 16:28, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Its very real, very notable, and very fun, even for us 20-somethings who should have outgrown it years ago... err kids these days... (; siroχo 17:00, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. If this goes, so should Pig Latin. - Plutor 18:36, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • ahem:
    • From Ste: Do you ever get embarrassed from playing Bogies?
    • Dom: Yes!
    • Dick: If you've ever seen it before, play it! You have to shout out 'bogies' getting louder and louder - the first person to bottle out is the loser!
  • (don't you love the BBC? [1]? So shuold this be moved to a different name shouting profanities game? perhaps? Dunc_Harris| 19:45, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately I'd have to say keep. Pretty immature, but still deserving of an article. -Frazzydee 20:54, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • keep - David Gerard 21:51, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. As the old saying goes, the PEN IS mightier than the sword. Dpbsmith 02:04, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. if it's a real game... --[[User:Ævar Arnfjör<eth> Bjarmason| ]] [[User:Ævar Arnfjör<eth> Bjarmason/|Ævar]] [[User talk:Ævar Arnfjör<eth> Bjarmason/|Arnfjör<eth>]] Bjarmason 03:38, 2004 Jul 15 (UTC)

PENIS!!

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  • Keep :) →Raul654 03:40, Jul 15, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Surprisingly informative article on an actual phenomenon, albeit one I haven't witnessed since high school. Austin Hair 03:42, Jul 15, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. As annoying as this game has become, it is a fact that it exists and continues to be played. Fuzheado | Talk 03:48, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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  • I think the consensus is to ```keep```. Jeeves 09:25, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Well that's my faith in humanity destroyed. - mib

  • Congratulations, you're all on Candid Camera! Meelar (talk 12:58, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Comment: The average mental age of the site seems to be dropping by the hour lately. That's not necessarily a bad thing, see Mark 10:15. No vote. Andrewa 20:47, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • In seriousness, since this game apparently has several variants, let me follow Dunc_Harris, but suggest that since "PENIS" is not technically a profanity, we describe a general version of this game, with "PENIS" as an example, at Vulgarity shouting game, and redirect? Note "vulgarity", not "vulgarities", as only one vulgarity in shouted, albeit several times in succession by several players. -- orthogonal 04:12, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • You need to see a doctor about that, Thue. I absolutely refuse to vote on this issue. Geogre 16:08, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC) ("Phallocentric? You bet. Got one, and it's right in the center.")
  • I'm not sure if this redirect idea (to vulgarity shouting game would be appropriate. I mean, nobody ever calls it that. In America I've never personally heard any version of this game except "Penis" actually played (although others have been tried, without success), and most everyone I know calls it "The penis game." I'm not sure about other countries like England, but if the only other version there is "Bogies", then I propose to Keep it under the current title, as that title is what it is very commonly known by, and give good mention to "Bogies", and perhaps redirect the title associated with that to "The penis game". Wikipedia is not a place for "Original research," and calling this style of game a "Vulgarity shouting game" almost comes down to "original social research," since you're catagorizing and analyzing it in a way that hasn't been notably done before.
    Ah, and for those of you who have their "Faith in humanity" destroyed, or think the "mental age" has decreased, I don't think I need to remind you that there is a world out there much worse than a few guys shouting penis at the top of their lungs. Laugh at it, and you might actually feel a little better (: siroχo 03:48, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)
    • But I would certainly be laughing at them (and it), not with them... Fire Star 14:09, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
      • This game is known in England. I have it on reliable evidence that British troops stationed in Germany play a variant in local drinking establishments, called 'Gestapo'. So if Penis had to go, aside from profanity shouting and vulgarity shouting games, we would also need an article for 'words of historical embarrassment shouting games'. Adhib 14:52, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
        • So, ah, how do the local burghers im die Bier-Hall respond? Shame over their Nazi past, or anger at being reminded by their liberators' Army? -- orthogonal 05:14, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
          • Naturally, the playing of the game results in tensions between players and other customers. I think this case is revealing in that it demonstrates that the 'offence word' serves mainly to test whether a player is more loyal to in-group or to out-group norms of behaviour. The winner is the one who is most 'in-group', obeying the rules of the game slavishly, and who is least sensitive to 'out-group' pressures. If played in an environment populated entirely by in-group members, the game is not fun, as it provides no such test.
  • Definitely keep. Real game, well-known. Aris Katsaris 23:57, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • As the penis game is the most well known variant, and there appear to be enough to make choosing a single phrase to describe the phenomenom quite difficult, how about we leave the entry where it is and add mentions of the other variants? -- Kizor 08:39, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • And here I thought a VfD subpage had been vandalized. What is wrong with all of you? (No vote.) --Ardonik 05:34, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)