Talk:Ipomoea aquatica
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Names
[edit]DanielCD, respectfully, because I know you do a lot of good work, I would like to ask why you moved the list of names to the "uses" section. It does not seem like an improvement to me, and I have reverted it, while retaining some other parts of your edit. — Pekinensis 22:07, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
I moved it there because it doesn't seem to make a good opening para. and the bold type is distracting. That's all. Didn't mean for it to be "uses", just moved it to the end where I usually put alternate name lists. I do a lot of plant edits and sometimes I make a blooper. whoops. I do like to put the sci. name cats first though. You can revert it if you disagree. --DanielCD 13:43, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
The article intro lists names in a variety of languages, then adds a name in Ghana and one in Suriname, both of which are countries, not languages. Further, the Wikipedia entries on those 2 countries list multiple languages, which doesn't help making clear which languages are meant. Unless someone who knows can substitute specific languages, I think the last 2 list items should be removed, for consistency with the rest. The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 19:27, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
suspect
[edit]Zitation: Water spinach (Ipomoea aquatica) was reported to be culuvated in Hong Kong in flooded fields with heavy applications of night soil as a fertilizez (Edie and Ho 1969). aus [1]
Sam Bennett: 'Ipomoea aquatica cultivated in the central poluted lake in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. 15th Jun 2007 82.2.53.83 12:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Lead poisoning
[edit]Apparently in Vietnam it has been poisoned with lead, and many people no longer eat it for that reason, believing it to be unsafe. Are there any sources in Vietnamese? Badagnani 06:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
How does it taste?
[edit]I read the entire article but there's no mention of it. I remember eating something that looked pretty much like this plant and it had an obnoxious, acrid taste somewhat reminiscent of rotten eggs (well, that's an exaggeration). It would be helpful if someone added a sentence like "Ipomoea aquatica is valued for its ___ taste" or something. Lysis rationale 03:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
like spinach —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.230.180 (talk) 17:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I eat it at least once a week. It taste similar to other leafy vegetables like spinach. It all depends on the cooking style. Jbanning22 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:40, 21 May 2010 (UTC).
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Observation
[edit]This page reads like a cookbook.
No politics in a page about plants please. I'm begging all of you.
I tried to add this link as a reference
[edit]http:// ezine articles .com/?How-to-Grow-Water-Spinach-(Kangkong)&id=5353497 This article was placed online by the Philippines who knows all about KangKong or Ipomoea aquatic. I was trying to add it as a reference due it reveals that this vegetable can be either propagated by planting the stem or from seeds from the seed pods but Wikipedia said the site was on their "black list". Bummer because this is an authoritative writing from someone who knows all about this vegetable. 2602:306:C518:6C40:5C5D:F920:659:AC04 (talk) 03:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Mental Clarity
[edit]I am an American who consumed this plant much when I was in the Philippines and it gave me mental clarity. This is something that should be included in the article. 2602:306:C518:6C40:C0D:47DB:425E:7888 (talk) 01:12, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
- Unless you've done peer-reviewed research into this, and had it published, editors can not insert personal anecdotes into articles, as that would violate Wikipedia policies on original research and neutral point of view.--Mr Fink (talk) 01:31, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Re: entry in section "In popular culture"
[edit]@Apokryltaros: Ok, since this IS the proper way to discuss this, I think this section should be removed. The editor (Pinoy.russophile27) who added this "fact", seems like he intends to offend the fans of Barangay Ginebra San Miguel. The term "kangkong" is being used by the fans of the other team, especially fans from the Star Hotshots as a potshot to the Ginebra fans since they have not won a single Philippine Basketball Association championship since 2008. Please read this article from spin.ph on why it is an offensive term to those fans. A sportscaster got indefinitely suspended to any PBA related shows since he did a stint showing kangkong to a former Ginebra player. -WayKurat (talk) 14:39, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Please read "Wikipedia is not censored." Simply because something is used in a deliberately offensive or derogatory manner is not grounds for removing mention of this use. Otherwise, this would entail the deletion of the numerous Wikipedia articles concerning profanity and insult terminology, in addition to deletion and or heavy censoring of topics some people find offensive and or degrading, like genitalia, or biological evolution.--Mr Fink (talk) 14:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- So, based on your argument, it's OK to post anything, offensive or not to someone. It may look amusing to foreigners like you who do not follow Philippine basketball but it's not to Ginebra fans. What I'm trying to prevent here is that edit war between Ginebra fans and those fans who likes to name call them "kangkong". Might as well add derogatory words against NFL and NBA teams and let's see their reaction to that. -WayKurat (talk) 14:54, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Did you even bother to read "Wikipedia is not censored"? That, and inane threats of inane reducto ad absurdum arguments don't cow me. The sole purpose of Wikipedia is to inform the reader with sourced information, and to censor information based solely on the fear that some readers may find it funny at the expense of others would compromise the integrity of the entire project.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, if you think that section is some form of censorship, that's your opinion and I can't change that. I'll consult this other editors from WP:PINOY if this section really needs to be there. -WayKurat (talk) 15:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- WayKurat, don't take things so personally. Wikipedia is full of articles like List of ethnic slurs, full of insults to almost every racial and national group. Wikipedia documents the world as it is, and does not try to censor according to this or that advocacy group. It also documents the fact that some former epithets have now been reclaimed by the denigrated groups as slogans of identity and pride (such as "cholo" or "queer" or "redneck"). Wikipedia has thousands of articles on things like Quebec French profanity, covering all the ideas and actions of peoples of the world. If you don't like thinking about them, go elsewhere. But you don't have the right to control what everybody else thinks or says. The world is full of things we don't like; deal with them directly, rather than trying to hide knowledge of things you are afraid of. Reify-tech (talk) 15:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, if you think that section is some form of censorship, that's your opinion and I can't change that. I'll consult this other editors from WP:PINOY if this section really needs to be there. -WayKurat (talk) 15:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Did you even bother to read "Wikipedia is not censored"? That, and inane threats of inane reducto ad absurdum arguments don't cow me. The sole purpose of Wikipedia is to inform the reader with sourced information, and to censor information based solely on the fear that some readers may find it funny at the expense of others would compromise the integrity of the entire project.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- So, based on your argument, it's OK to post anything, offensive or not to someone. It may look amusing to foreigners like you who do not follow Philippine basketball but it's not to Ginebra fans. What I'm trying to prevent here is that edit war between Ginebra fans and those fans who likes to name call them "kangkong". Might as well add derogatory words against NFL and NBA teams and let's see their reaction to that. -WayKurat (talk) 14:54, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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Ong choy
[edit]I add the Cantonese name ong choy, since it's often called that in fruit and vegetables stores in NZ. I have no particular concern over which transliteration is used. Also, AFAIK, neither ong choy or kang kung are ambigious. Nil Einne (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- While I don't object to the removal for the reason given, IMO this section could mostly be added back whether in the lead or elsewhere [2] as many of the names are given in the Stuartxchange ref. And while I don't want to get into a long debate about non English names in the English wikipedia, I think this particular example is one where such names are clearly useful since as illustrated by the kang kung and ong choy example, for something like this it's fairly common that it's simply called by some local name in English. (I'm not sure if I've actually seen the name "water spinach" or anything similar either at a store or on a menu.) Nil Einne (talk) 16:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Etymology - is kangkong really from Hokkien 孔空?
[edit]It doesn't make grammatical sense and there is currently no usage of this term in Hokkien that I can find. Here in Taiwan the Hokkien word is ing-tsai (蕹菜). C9mVio9JRy (talk) 15:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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