Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment

Arts and Entertainment Work Group

The Arts and Entertainment Work Group is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles.

Biography (arts and entertainment) articles by quality and importance
Quality	Importance
	Top	High	Mid	Low	NA	???	Total
FA	8	17	40	81			146
FL			3	3			6
A			1	1			2
GA	10	37	85	400		64	596
B	49	146	400	1,174		2,835	4,604
C	20	168	749	6,664	3	15,115	22,719
Start	4	96	1,169	24,200	12	57,402	82,883
Stub	1	17	383	31,612	7	45,746	77,766
List		4	4	169	1	165	343
Category				7	11,326		11,333
Disambig				1	29		30
File					355		355
Project					7		7
Redirect				407	1,419		1,826
Template				2	852		854
NA				12	13		25
Other			1	26	58		85
Assessed	92	485	2,835	64,759	14,082	121,327	203,580
Unassessed			1	112		1,196	1,309
Total	92	485	2,836	64,871	14,082	122,523	204,889
WikiWork factors (?)		ω = 987,252			Ω = 5.23

Related Projects

Since biographies are potentially under the purview of almost all WikiProjects, it is important that we work in tandem with these projects. Also, when seeking collaboration on articles, don't neglect to approach WikiProjects that are part of the geographical region your subject is/was in.

Related Portals

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• Portal:Arts
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Navigation

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Articles

• FAs:
  • Eric Bana • Salvador Dalí • Vivien Leigh • Satyajit Ray • as category list
• GAs:
  • as category list
• All articles that are part of this work group
  • Category:Arts and entertainment work group articles

Announcements/To Do ()

• AfDs:
  • John Mandel at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Mandel (3 January 2010) Kept
  • Dawn Geary at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dawn Geary (9 July 2009)
  • Michael Bair at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Bair (14 September 2008)
  • Myami Kurosaki at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Myami Kurosaki (5 January 2008)
  • Sean Scullion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sean Scullion (5 January 2008)
  • Zelda Young at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zelda Young (31 December 2007)
  • Cher Hubsher at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cher Hubsher (20 December 2007 – 27 December 2007) Deleted
  • Raven Hanson at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raven Hanson (25 October 2007 – 6 November 2007) Deleted
• PRODs:

• Rob Dorn (via WP:PROD on 27 December 2007) Deleted
• Millie Clode (via WP:PROD on 21 December 2007) Deleted
• Heather young (model) (via WP:PROD on 6 December 2007) Deleted

• Notability questioned:
  • A.C. Lyles
  • Emma Maree Urquhart
• FAC:
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• FAR:
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• FARC:
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• Article requests::
• John_Buscema: There's a debate between the current version and this version - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Buscema&oldid=181851662 - requesting input to arrive at a consensus integrating both versions.
• Pierce O'Donnell — California's 22nd congressional district candidate[1] Los Angeles lawyer Buchwald v. Paramount screenwriter [2] author ISBN 1-56584-958-2 ISBN 0-385-41686-5 [3] California Fair Political Practices Commission[4][5][6][7]
• William Ely Hill (1887-1962) - Illustrator, created artwork for the book covers for F. Scott Fitzgerald and had a regular entry in the New York tribune along with being published on numerous occasions.
• Misc:
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Directions for expanding any division below

The general outline and collection has been started, but if you would like to expand and organize a discipline, here's what you do. Right below the page heading for the discipline insert this: {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Work groups/Division banner}} and save. This will put a rough outline together for you and then you can edit it to conform to your area. See Writers and critics below for an example. If your project grows large enough where it's taking up a good portion of this page, you should probably move it to a subpage of this page.

You might also want to make a Members section for people to join your specific area!

Tagging articles

Any article related to this work group should be marked by adding |a&e-work-group=yes to the {{WPBiography}} project banner at the top of its talk page. This will automatically place it into Category:Arts and entertainment work group articles. Articles can be assessed for priority within this work group by using the |a&e-priority= parameter. See Template:WikiProject Biography/doc for detailed instructions on how to use the banner.

Members

1. I am ready to work on the biography articles of Indian or Biography actors Jogesh 69 (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
2. come help with the Bronwen Mantel article Smith Jones 22:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
3. Lovelaughterlife (talk · contribs) Worked extensively on some biographies; reverted vandalism some others
4. Francoisalex2 (talk · contribs)
5. Dovebyrd (talk · contribs)
6. Artventure22 (talk · contribs)
7. Truth in Comedy (talk · contribs)
8. Warlordjohncarter (talk · contribs)
9. DENAMAX (talk · contribs) Maxim Stoyalov
10. Ozgod (talk · contribs)
11. Eremeyv (talk · contribs)
12. Susanlesch (talk · contribs), mostly inactive
13. EraserGirl (talk) 03:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
14. Shruti14 (talk · contribs) will help when I can
15. Jubileeclipman (talk · contribs) I am interested in taking on UK celebrities with articles that are stubs or otherwise non-standard. Entirely rewrote Fearne Cotton to raise standard and remove fansite tag. I am working on Holly Willoughby which was merely a list plus trivia. Will also work on musicians, all genre, living or dead.
16. Jarhed (talk · contribs) 21:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
17. Mvzix (talk · contribs)
18. Cassianto (talk · contribs)
19. Iamthecheese44 (talk · contribs)
20. Georgiasouthernlynn (talk · contribs)
21. Fitindia (talk · contribs)
22. BabbaQ (talk · contribs)
23. Woodstop45 (talk · contribs)
24. Willthacheerleader18 (talk · contribs)
25. The Eloquent Peasant (talk · contribs)
26. Lopifalko (talk · contribs)
27. Terasaface (talk) 03:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC) Working on BLP of artists primarily working in the fields of Studio craft
28. Corachow (talk · contribs)
29. Yorubaja (talk · contribs) 14:23:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC) 
30. Ms Kabintie (talk · contribs)
31. JamesNotin (talk · contribs)
32. Ppt91 (talk · contribs)
33. Slacker13 (talk · contribs)

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Actors

• See Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers (a child project of this workgroup).

Architects

• Portal:Architecture
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Sanwal sharma

• WikiProject Visual arts
• ===Announcements/To-Do===
• Missing articles
  • From the Catholic Encyclopedia

Illustrators

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Painters

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  • {{Mexico-painter-stub}}
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  • {{Canada-painter-stub}}
  • {{China-painter-stub}}
  • {{Netherlands-painter-stub}}
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  • {{Germany-painter-stub}}
  • {{Iran-painter-stub}}
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Photographers

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Sculptors

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Comics artists

• Portal:Comics
• {{comics-creator-stub}}
  • {{Comics-artist-stub}}
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Visual arts deletions

Visual arts deletion sorting discussions

See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Artists Visual arts Flag of Otago Flag of Otago (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Can't find any sources that talk about this flag. The current sources are a passing mention related to the designer's opinion on something else, and flags of the world which is a deprectated source. couldn't find any books, news articles, even on the council website wasn't anything. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Visual arts and New Zealand. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC) clarifying im not saying this flag is inaccurate just saying its not notable enough to have its own article TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Keep Very odd that it's not on the council website - it is the official flag and is flown outside their headquarters. Also not quite sure why FOTW is a deprecated source - it's still active and currently undergoing a major upgrade. I'll look for more sources. Grutness...wha? 01:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC) WP:FOTW ->Flags of the World has been written off as an unreliable source in general. Although some of its pages might refer to reliable sources, it is self-published content without editorial oversight, and the hosts "disclaim any responsibility about the veracity and accuracy of the contents of the website." TheLoyalOrder (talk) 01:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 00:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC) Keep, not understanding what the problem is. Otago is a region of the South Islands, and the region has a flag, and Wikipedians have written an article about that flag. Wikipedia's flag collection includes many articles on regional territorial flags. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC) the flag doesn't meet Wikipedia:Notability to have its own article, there are literally no sources that I could find TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC) Lost Mysteries AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/Lost Mysteries Articles for deletion/Lost Mysteries (2nd nomination) Lost Mysteries (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) I'm rather surprised that this survived the earlier deletion discussion, which seems very shallow. Most of those calling for keeping it cited only the sheer number of sources all piled up in one place, with apparently nobody, including the nominator, actually looking at them. Well, I've looked at them all, or at least those that are still online, and they are all nearly exactly the same: some fan horror fan website or podcast writes like two paragraphs saying "these are kind of cool" and then reproduces several of the illustrations (although those have mostly been taken down now as well). I didn't find a single one that a person could honestly characterize as significant coverage from a reliable source. The use of external links is also problematic, we don't usually include 140 external links in the body of an article, or any at all, actually. It would be more effort than this article is worth to even correct this problem as this appears to have been a flash-in-the-pan fad that the artist did to raise money for some other project, from what I can glean from the extremely scant actual coverage that goes beyond "hey look at this." Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Visual arts and Comics and animation. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Keep I don't agree that it can be characterized as a "flash-in-the-pan fad" when it's been going on for 10 years continues to get coverage since the last time a source was added to the article, 1, 2, 3. What can be considered "in depth" is highly debatable, personally I would say that what is here gets the subject over GNG. And "article is bad/weird/unusual" is not a valid reason for deletion.★Trekker (talk) 22:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Just saying What can be considered "in depth" is highly debatable is easy enough, but I don't think you can actually show that any of this coverage has any depth at all, and also none of it is what would be considered a reliable source, which you haven't addressed with your reply. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 00:09, 6 August 2024 (UTC) All the sources are considered reliable by the horror project as far as I know.★Trekker (talk) 10:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC) I'm not seeing whatever specialized sourcing guideline you are referring to. "I think a WikiProject agrees with me" is not a valid argument as that is obviously not how we determine what is a reliable source. Geek Tyrant, for example, does not look at all like proffessional journalism. Neither does The Retroist, which spilled all of 131 words on the subject, hardly in-depth coverage. Paste (magazine) seems an ok source, but they wrote only five sentences, that again, boiled down to "hey look at this guys Tumblr" and nothing else. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Keep: I am satisfied with the existing coverage. The page might do with some cleanup, true. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC) I'm honestly confused how you could look at literally any of the sources and feel that they present the subject in any depth. There's nothing beyond "hey look at this" which is why the article is just the same. There's a good number of sources, but if you can't point to at least a few that have some depth then how can you be satisfied with it? Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC) You have already stated that 3 times or maybe more and Trekker has already kindly replied. Check the definition of significant on Wikipedia, if you wish. Various sources are independent and reliable and address the productions directly; the coverage can be considered significant either individually, or collectively, if your concern is the number of words or sentences of each of the sources. Thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:27, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Check the definition of significant on Wikipedia, if you wish. Yeah, I'm aware of it, the sentence you quote actually says "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail" (emphasis added). This is my entire point, there is no detailed analysis in any of the sources. A whole bunch of brief mentions that say nothing of substance doesn't meet the bar. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC) I never doubted you knew it. But that's what Trekker already told you, the threshold between in-depth and not in-depth can appear debatable. The dichotomy detail/vs/trivial mention, on the other hand, less so. And various sources are clearly not passing mentions but address the topic directly, yes. You might, personally, wish there were more details or might not like what the source says, or what you see, or the way the article says things, or maybe you find it of little interest, etc., but some sources can reasonably be called detailed and can definitely not be called trivial coverage. I don't like it either, at all, if you want to know the truth, but, from my understanding of the guideline, it may be considered notable. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Strong delete. The first source is "Geek Tyrant" which does not seem like the most reliable of sources and is only five sentences, so not significant coverage. The second source is similarly "ComingSoon.net" which is only four sentences long. The third source is "ComingSoon.net" again, this time with five sentences. I don't see the significant coverage in reliable sources here that would suggest this might meet WP:GNG. I'd consider an article on the artist rather than this one of their art projects, but this seems far from WP:ARTIST standards like "significant new concept, theory, or technique," "substantial part of a significant exhibition," or "represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums." Elspea756 (talk) 21:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Not replying on the significant/not significant issue, but I would not be opposed to redirecting it to Travis Falligant (see https://nerdist.com/article/scooby-doo-horror-icons-art-michael-myers-jason-voorhees-freddy-krueger/ https://in.ign.com/scooby-doo/62024/news/artist-imagines-scooby-doo-meeting-freddy-jason-and-more (both about the Scooby-Doo work and not quoted in the article, if I am not mistaken) https://bloody-disgusting.com/images/3605367/artist-travis-falligants-adorable-horror-babies-ready-animated-series/ https://www.altpress.com/an_artist_transformed_disney_princesses_into_popular_horror_movie_character/ that could help establish his new concept is the cute x horror crossover) but in the meantime, this is perhaps his best known and (I think) most extensive work and we can't redirect it to a non-existing page. Again, if other users think renaming and reshaping the page is better, I am not opposed. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC) I've checked these suggested sources, and am regretting that I spent any time doing so. I am switching my previous comment to "strong delete," as I am further convinced this is nowhere near WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST. Elspea756 (talk) 22:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC) You're welcome. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:37, 7 August 2024 (UTC) This is what is puzzling to me as well. The last AFD ended in a keep result because there was no actual discussion of the quality of the sources. That's fair, when nominating something for deletion the quality of the sources is almost always a key element and the onus is on the nominator to make that point. Unlike the previous nominator, I did take the time to look at them, and there's nothing there beyond "look at this" which obviously does not constitute significant coverage, whether the sources are reliable or not. The suggested new sources are just more of the same. Fan sites need to keep grinding out content to attract readers, and that is all that this coverage is, a couple sentences, then a bunch of examples of the works. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC) Nerdist is not a fan site, IGN is not a fan site, Altpress is not a fan site, Bloody Disgusting is not a fan site. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC) Visual arts - Proposed deletions Visual arts - Images for Deletion Visual arts - Deletion Review

Performing arts

Comedians

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Dancers

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Directors

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Musicians

• See Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians (a child project of this workgroup).

Magicians

• See Wikipedia:WikiProject Magic

Writers and critics

Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics

The Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles.

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FAs and GAs

• FAs:
  • Douglas Adams • Mário de Andrade • Isaac Asimov • Augusta, Lady Gregory • Cædmon • H.D. • Du Fu • Robert A. Heinlein • Muhammad Iqbal • Henry James • James Joyce • J. R. R. Tolkien • Rudyard Kipling • George Moore • Chuck Palahniuk • Thomas Pynchon • John Millington Synge • William Butler Yeats
• FACs:
  • W. S. Gilbert
• GAs:
  • Bashō, Matsuo — Brasseur de Bourbourg, Charles Étienne — Campbell, John W. — Cummings, E. E. — Gilbert, W. S. — Goldfaden, Abraham — Hemingway, Ernest — Hugo, Victor — Lem, Stanisław — Purcell, Steve — Rodenbach, Albrecht — Rowling, J. K. — Shakespeare, William — Upfield, Arthur — Wilde, Oscar

Announcements/To do ()

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Members

• Badbilltucker 22:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
• Adam Cuerden ^talk 17:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Awadewit 19:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
• María: (habla ~ cosas) 16:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
• --Tom.mevlie (talk) 11:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
• Aristophanes68 (talk) 02:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC) - especially interested in Ethnic U.S. authors
• Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 00:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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Authors / Writers deletions

Authors / Writers deletion sorting discussions

Authors Gary Goh AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/Gary Goh Articles for deletion/Gary Goh (2nd nomination) Gary Goh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Fails WP:BIO, WP:NAUTHOR, WP:NPROF and WP:GNG. I can't find a single reliable secondary source on him, and this version of the article (recreated in May 2024) is sourced only by press releases and the author's own works. I could find no independent reviews of any of his books in a WP:BEFORE search, and nothing remarkable about his academic career. His press releases say he was a visiting/emeritus professor at the now-defunct California International Business University in the US (which appears to have a been a visa mill), South-West State University in Russia, and an online outfit called "SABI University" in France which appears to be a degree mill. Outcome of the last AFD was to draftify per creator's request in April 2019. The draft was abandoned, and deleted in March 2021. Editors searching for significant coverage, please note that there is an unrelated Singaporean film producer with this name, and an unrelated Malaysian athlete. Wikishovel (talk) 16:32, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Authors, Business, and Australia. Wikishovel (talk) 16:32, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Delete Can't find significant secondary coverage, all of the sources are either written by the subject or press releases. hinnk (talk) 03:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC) Nandini Balial AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/Nandini Balial Articles for deletion/Nandini Balial (2nd nomination) Nandini Balial (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Complete lack of notability slygent (talk) 04:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CptViraj (talk) 05:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Authors, Delhi, and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Delete There still does not seem to be any notabilty. Odd closure of the first AfD. Xxanthippe (talk) 07:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC), Delete - so some published articles in notable publications, but no sources talking about her as a subject. There is one brief mention of one of her articles in one book. I don't see how the threshold for WP:GNG would be passed here. --Soman (talk) 11:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Sophia Moestrup AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/Sophia Moestrup Articles for deletion/Sophia Moestrup (2nd nomination) Sophia Moestrup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Last AfD almost 7 years ago was no consensus. I don't think she meets WP:BIO or WP:PROF. LibStar (talk) 04:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Women, Politics, and Denmark. LibStar (talk) 04:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 05:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Delete per nom. Catfurball (talk) 17:31, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Zhu Yudong Zhu Yudong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) I can’t see any in depth coverage in RIS to indicate that this subject is notable. There may be sources in Chinese I didn’t manage to turn up - if not this article should go. Mccapra (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Authors, and China. Mccapra (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Comment. I have been finding Chinese language sources for this subject, who seems to be a pretty famous director. I haven't yet found any RS that demonstrate individual notability, but I'll look again later today and report my findings or not findings as applicable. Our article is longer than his Baidu page, which seems kinda sus. Folly Mox (talk) 11:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Bret Kamwi Bret Kamwi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Article doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR and WP:ACTOR. At most impact, for directing a quite significantly covered play, I won't have at prejudice with redirecting to List of Namibian writers. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 13:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Authors, Lists of people, and Africa. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 13:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Bimal Dey AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/Bimal Dey Articles for deletion/Bimal Dey (2nd nomination) Bimal Dey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Doesn't appear to meet WP:NAUTHOR. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 13:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, Lists of people, Asia, and India. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 13:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Delete The one review is a start at demonstrating criterion #3 of WP:NAUTHOR, but the bookseller page and his book do nothing to help. Searches in English and Bengali returned one article in a regional French newspaper about him presenting an artwork to the mayor of Saint-Paul-en-Chablais, but nothing about it suggests a significant depth of coverage.[8] I don't see a fundamental improvement since the first time this was deleted. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC) @Davey2010, OccultZone, and Thomas.W: Pinging as concerned editors all unblocked participants in the first discussion. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC) Delete per nom. ~ Deloar Akram (Talk • Contribute) 15:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC) John_Kannenberg AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/John Kannenberg John_Kannenberg (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) This person does not meet the notability criteria. That museum does not physically exist, he named himself director and chief curator, as far as I can see. Music label is also selfpublished. Linked websites are mostly his websites. Wikigrund (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC) Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 August 4. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 13:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Authors, Museums and libraries, and Wisconsin. C F A 💬 14:40, 4 August 2024 (UTC) Merge to Museum of Portable Sound which appears notable and for which I'm about to create a stub. Kannenberg can be discussed within. Star Mississippi 16:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC) Merge I agree with Mississippi. As Director and Chief Curator of The Museum of Portable Sound more about Kannenberg can be added to the article. I am surprised it has this long for the article to be nominated for deletion or at least flagged given the article has no citations. Myotus (talk) 00:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Merge to Museum of Portable Sound which has multiple reliable sources. Elspea756 (talk) 13:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Merge - I am not finding RS for stand-alone article. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Timothy O'Hagan Timothy O'Hagan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Does this pass WP:PROF? The citations for his books and papers seem limited so me, to the point where I am unconvinced of notability. Uhooep (talk) 16:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and United Kingdom. Shellwood (talk) 17:37, 3 August 2024 (UTC) Keep. The article as nominated already had enough in-depth sources about his books (four about one and three about the other) for WP:AUTHOR. Citation counts are often not meaningful for academics in book-publishing fields. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Philosophy, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC) Keep - Per David Eppstein -- reviews are the most important for book-publishing fields and there are more than enough here. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 21:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC) Keep Significant reviews of his books in academic publications. Lamona (talk) 16:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC) Keep, given that reviews of his books means he passes WP:NAUTHOR. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 18:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Jon Radoff Jon Radoff (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Appears to fail WP:NBIO - while it does have a piece of significant coverage, the InfoWorld article, the others are just announcements and primary source interviews without substantive discussion. It does not pass WP:NARTIST either due to the fact he was just a co-developer or director of most games he made. When the article was first made it also failed NBIO and does not seem to have remedied that situation. There are a lot of minor mentions, but a lack of SIGCOV. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Video games. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Delete per nom, still fails the If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability. as most of them are primary and just trivial Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:51, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Massachusetts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Comment: ComputerHope database entry. This appears to be a follow up from Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Beamable, note that gamerDNA, founded by Radoff, also has an article.. IgelRM (talk) 21:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC) When you add this Ars Technica article, combined with PC Gamer and Boston Globe articles, I do think GuildCafe/GamerDNA passes WP:NCORP, so I will not be nominating it for deletion. Though I can't say the same for its creator yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC) But the Ars article heavily quotes Radoff, so I think WP:ATD would be feasible again. Not going by guidelines briefly, GamerDNA appeared to exist from 2006 to 2011(?), while Radoff had a career from 1992 to now. IgelRM (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting. Is there an ATD being suggested somewhere here in this discussion? Please identify a suggested target article. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:36, 8 August 2024 (UTC) Sorry, I think keep the article if we use the sources from GamerDNA and Disruptor Beam and maybe merge GamerDNA here. Sources for Disruptor: gamesindustry.biz, gamedaily.biz, pocketgamer.biz IgelRM (talk) 17:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC) Fiona Krautil Fiona Krautil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination) (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) I don't see how she meets WP:BIO or WP:AUTHOR. Most of the sources merely confirm facts about her and I found nothing in a google news search. LibStar (talk) 02:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Women, and Australia. LibStar (talk) 02:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC) Keep I have already added more references to this article to show notability. She has been written about in the Australian press with some brief bios in those articles. She advised the Federal Government and argued for innovative labour policies for women long before they were legislated by government such as paid maternity leave, flexible working hours, better access to child care. I will add more to her article later.LPascal (talk) 06:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC) Additional comment- Also she has brief bios in Who's Who in Australia 2002 and 2009 and is listed in the Encyclopedia of Australian Science and Innovation https://www.eoas.info/biogs/P004276b.htm LPascal (talk) 06:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC) Additional comment: A short bio and interview is here and shows some of her impact on government policy. https://aclw.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Leadership-Interviews-alphabetical.pdf by Australian Centre for Leadership for Women https://aclw.org/research-and-publications/leadership-interviews/leadership-interviews/LPascal (talk) 09:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC) I'm not sure if an interview would be a primary source. ACLW invited her for an interview. LibStar (talk) 03:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC) Delete as sources are either not reliable or not providing sufficient support to meet WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 11:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC) Which sources do you think are not reliable?LPascal (talk) 09:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC) Delete the available sources don't demonstrate GNG here. LusikSnusik (talk) 10:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'd like to hear from more editors (one of the participants here has just been indefinitely blocked). Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:44, 24 July 2024 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC) Keep. This article is important enough. Also there are more good references available to add to this article. Here is one: "Fiona Krautil produced a discussion pack on ‘What gets in the way of Women’s Advancement?’ for discussion at the Talent Council and the Succession Council, both of which exist to identify and develop high potential people." [9] Rockycape (talk) 04:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC) That link doesn't establish notability and is not WP:SIGCOV. The fact that she produced a discussion pack doesn't really advance notability. LibStar (talk) 03:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Weak Keep The article is important but needs more improvements with references and details. my opinion is to keep the article. Yakov-kobi (talk) 07:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC) Delete. She fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO with a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Several sources exist but they are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS (e.g. Sydney Morning Herald), WP:TRADES publications (e.g. Lawyer's Weekly) and WP:PRIMARYSOURCES (e.g. official bios). At first I thought her entry in the Encyclopedia of Australian Science and Innovation might qualify her, but it does not appear to be a "dictionary of national biography" (which would be the Australian Dictionary of Biography, where Krautil does not appear) per WP:ANYBIO criterion 3; not only is it not the national biographical dictionary, it appears to be a bullet-point listing of a few posts and articles by her -- not an encyclopedic entry on her life and significance. (The EASI also appears to accept user-submitted content, potentially making it WP:USERGENERATED). All told, an apparently accomplished individual who does *not* pass notability guidelines. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC) Dclemens1971, your final comment, an apparently accomplished individual who does pass notability guidelines., is in conflict with your argument to Delete this article. Liz Read! Talk! 02:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC) @Liz thanks for flagging, that was a typo—now fixed! Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:49, 7 August 2024 (UTC) Delete. The WP:BURDEN of proof is on those wishing to insert or keep material. Here we have an article about a BLP subject, sourced to interviews, passing mentions, and user-generated content. Only keep assertions in this process so far appear as applicable as personal opinions. Burden is not met. My reasonable BEFORE finds nothing useful. Fails ANYBIO, GNG, and AUTHOR. I thank User:Dclemens1971 for their source analysis. BusterD (talk) 14:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Authors proposed deletions Nazareth Hassan (via WP:PROD on 9 October 2023)

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