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    July 10[edit]

    Sources[edit]

    How do I put the source on Wikipedia? Thank you. Junurita (talk) 04:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Junurita. Please read Referencing for beginners. Cullen328 (talk) 06:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much. Junurita (talk) 06:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Junurita, please also read reliable sources to learn about the types of sources that are acceptable. Cullen328 (talk) 06:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Deleting a user page[edit]

    Hello, someone else created my user page, mistaking it for my talk page (that user is now perma-blocked). Is it possible to delete my user page again (i.e. the link to it is "red" again)? I come from de:wikipedia, where this is possible. Thanks in advance! MeAmME (talk) 07:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, see WP:U1. TSventon (talk) 08:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bio of a living person[edit]

    Hi! I would like to create an article about a public person, a politician. He/she is charged with attempted murder, it is in the indictment, plus I have some 17 sources that claim the same. He/she was in prison for that, but released because got elected and has immunity now. Is it against the BLP policy of the Wikipedia to write it down the article that he/she is charged with attempted murder? Addmorefueltothefire (talk) 10:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Have a look at WP:SUSPECT (presumption of innocence) and WP:NPOL (notability) to help you decide whether this article should be created. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 10:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Addmorefueltothefire, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia.
    I would very strongly advise against doing this, for several reasons.
    First, creating a new article, even on an uncontroversial topic, is much more challenging than most new editors imagine, and where people try to do so without first spending some weeks or months practising editing Wikipedia and learning how Wikipedia works, they usually have a frustrating and disappointing time, and often do not succeed in creating an article at all. With a possibly controversial topic, this can be even worse.
    Secondly, Claudine has drawn your attention to the special concerns for writing about people accused of crimes.
    Thirdly, your language above, together with your chosen account name, make me think that you have strong opinions about this person's guilt, one way or another. Please be aware that advocacy of any kind is not permitted on Wikipedia, and coming in with that intention would make the task harder still. Please see WP:RIGHTINGGREATWRONGS, ColinFine (talk) 14:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is the help desk. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    HaMerotz LaMillion (and all of its' seasons)[edit]

    The articles about the TV show HaMerotz LaMillion, the Israeli version of The Amazing Race (General article, season 1, season 2, season 3, season 4, season 5, season 6, season 7, season 8, and the ongoing season 9) all don't have sources and are too much database-like (Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a database). The creator of this database that I will on purpose not tag (Xoruz) has been working on this for years, and has not been caught doing this yet. It includes episode-specific summaries, every and every spot the participants visited, and the worst part - it has almost no sources. Even the original, Hebrew article isn't this detailed.

    In addition to that, it contains spoilers for future legs of the race (in the current season).

    Do we ask them to condense the article dramatically, or delete them since there is no way to get sources? In my opinion, deleting the articles will extremely depress the creator, since this is obviously an obsessive personal project. And of course there is also a possibility to leave this as it is, though that would go against the rules of Wikipedia, unless the rules are different for TV shows and series.

    CRplayz7 (talk) 11:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I am active on the Hebrew Wikipedia, and less on the English one, so if it looks weird that I don't have a user or talk page - that's why :) CRplayz7 (talk) 11:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CRplayz7: I'm not going to evaluate the articles but MOS:PLOTSOURCE says: "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as it is generally assumed that the work itself is the primary source for the plot summary." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your response!
    I'll leave the sources outside. The spoilers regarding the future legs of the race in season 9 are not of the work YET - and should be deleted, in my opinion.
    In addition, the article is way too long and unnecessary. Therefore, I suggest placing the condense article template in the top of the page. Since I'm not a regular user on this Wikipedia, and don't know the template names, I wanted to know what's the procedure for placing them and if someone would be so kind to do so.
    Thank you! CRplayz7 (talk) 14:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter CRplayz7 (talk) 14:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    First, MOS:TVPLOT allows episode summaries of 200 words, and each individual episode summary for HaMerotz LaMillion 9 is compliant. Second, you removed two outside sources that listed future legs. Spoilers that are properly cited are allowed under Wikipedia:Spoiler. Also, there are 34 sources for season 9. What do you mean no sources? Xoruz (talk) 19:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Prime Hunter has brought the sources not being needed to my attention.
    Regarding the spoilers - someone who wants to check out what happened in the previous episodes doesn't have to see the future legs - it ruins the experience and doesn't add anything to the article. It's just annoying. CRplayz7 (talk) 05:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    (Untitled)[edit]

    Why can't I insert photos into my membership page? Thank you. Junurita (talk) 12:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Junurita which 'membership page' are you referring to? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My membership page. Junurita (talk) 00:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Junurita. If you mean your user page, then you are permitted to add photos to it, provided they meet the usual requirements of copyright. Please see Help:Upload. ColinFine (talk) 14:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have the copyright to that photo, but it says there is an error and cannot be uploaded. Junurita (talk) 00:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Junurita: Start at commons:Special:UploadWizard. It it fails then be specific about the error. If you get an error message then quote it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Error: This page has been blocked from editing or other actions.Thank you Junurita (talk) 13:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Junurita: At which point do you get the message? Which file name did you try to upload? Do you get an error message on this example edit link: [1]. Just click it without doing anything. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding on as an alumni to my highschool page[edit]

    https://m.imdb.com/name/nm16015324/ Nprosper01 (talk) 14:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Don't. Read WP:ALUMNI, and WP:IMDB. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Nprosper01 (talk) 14:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to change talk signature?[edit]

    Currently working with the preferences box to try to change my signature. I just want it lowercase. From the preview window it looks like it worked guninvalid (talk) 18:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Your signature is "guninvalid (talk)" wich is indeed lowercase so it worked. The signature setting doesn't affect anything else. You may want to use {{lowercase title}} on your user and talk page but your real username shown in page histories and many other places cannot be lowercase. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright I did both of those things, thanks for confirming :) guninvalid (talk) 16:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Fault in a 'Help' page (non-working video tutorial)[edit]

    What are the best places to report faults? In this case, the fault is with a video tutorial on the following 'Help' page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Sandbox_tutorial) with the video failing to play. I've checked the page for the video file at Wikimedia Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutorial_on_starting_a_sandbox_article_on_Wikipedia.ogv) & attempting to play the video there produces the following error message "No compatible source was found for this media.". As well, the page shows caption text that may suggest that the file has been hacked? I've been through the 'Help' pages & there's no obvious place to report a fault like this. What do you recommend? Bluevista99 (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It is better to report this problem at the Commons' help desk. Ruslik_Zero 19:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bluevista99: It works for me in Firefox 127.0.2. What is your browser and version? See Help:Media. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    how to change a title for an article?[edit]

    I have a task to edit and correct an article for a governmental event, and I was able to edit everything but could not change its title. So what can the problem be? Janaalrifaey (talk) 22:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Janaalrifaey. This is about the World Government Summit. If you have been "tasked" with editing this article, then please make the mandatory Paid contributions disclosure with your next edit. You cannot change the title because you are not WP:AUTOCONFIRMED, which requires an account four full days old and 10 edits. WP:COMMONNAME is the relevant guideline. For a "governmental event", we do not use the official government name, but rather the name used by most of the reliable sources discussing the event. Cullen328 (talk) 01:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, changing an article's title is not done by editing it in the same way as its content, but by another process, which I will not mention at this point since it's unclear as yet if you should be doing so. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.82.201 (talk) 07:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July 11[edit]

    How to link to a different language wiki in the "website" field of "cite website?"[edit]

    This works: <ref>{{cite web |last1=Washington |first1=George |title=Revolutionary War Begins |url=https://example.com |website=[[The Pennsylvania Gazette]]}}</ref> (example[1])

    ie. putting wikilinks like website=[[The Pennsylvania Gazette]] in the cite web website field

    But this does not:

    <ref>{{cite web |last1=Washington |first1=George |title=Revolutionary War Begins |url=https://example.com |website=[[zh:公报_(宾夕法尼亚)]]}}</ref> (example[2])

    but this does generally does work on mainspace pages: [[zh:公报_(宾夕法尼亚)]] zh:公报_(宾夕法尼亚)

    This is especially important when citing WP:NOENG, so that readers can find more information about the source being cited as they are probably not familiar with it. J2UDY7r00CRjH (talk) 03:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    {{cite web |last1=Washington |first1=George |title=Revolutionary War Begins |url=https://example.com |script-website=zh:[[:zh:公报_(宾夕法尼亚)|公报_(宾夕法尼亚)]]}}
    Washington, George. "Revolutionary War Begins". 公报_(宾夕法尼亚).
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 07:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! J2UDY7r00CRjH (talk) 07:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @J2UDY7r00CRjH: Wikipedia is not a reliable source and so should not be cited at all. See WP:CIRCULAR. Bazza 7 (talk) 08:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think they were talking about adding wikilinks to sources that have their own Wikipedia pages. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 09:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Washington, George. "Revolutionary War Begins". The Pennsylvania Gazette.
    2. ^ Washington, George. "Revolutionary War Begins". zh:公报_(宾夕法尼亚).

    2024-25 Pittsburgh Penguins season page.[edit]

    There is an issue in the Roster section of this page. A Penguins' goaltender, Tristan Jarry, is not listed on the roster. But, if you go to edit that section, his name & corresponding info do show up in the "source editing" format. I cannot figure out how to get his name & info to reappear in the Roster section. Please help? SummeRStorM79 (talk) 09:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi SummeRStorM79 I have "mended" it by removing the hidden text formatting (<!-- -->) from around his name on the edit page. I note that there are a number of other names on the edit page in similar formatting - so the whole sub-page needs checking, but I know nothing about the Pittsburgh Penguins. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    {{Pittsburgh Penguins roster}} has a reference to the roster on the official NHL site [2]. Tristan Jarry is there but not Jack St. Ivany so I commented him out.[3] He is on the roster of the affiliated Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins as a prospect for the Pittsburgh Penguins. He might make the main team later so I didn't remove him completely. The displayed players on the template now match the NHL roster. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Arjayay & PrimeHunter, thanks so much for your actions, input, & time spent getting back to me. Despite being an editor for about 7 years, I still have much to learn, so it's very cool to have friendly & helpful editors like you 2 graciously lend a helping hand. I appreciate you both! =) SummeRStorM79 (talk) 15:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    access to editing area[edit]

    Hi, where can one edit text in Panchaloha#See also please? Spicemix (talk) 14:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Spicemix: All links in that section currently use {{annotated link}} which automatically displays a short description stored in the target page. Short descriptions are displayed in many other places. I guess you only want to change what is displayed at Panchaloha#See also. You can omit {{annotated link}} and write your own link and description, e.g. changing {{annotated link|Brass}} to [[Brass]] – Copper-zinc alloy, or whatever you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! Spicemix (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Next to the Section title 'See also' you should see '[edit]' (I do), where the word is a bluelink to open the editing window. However, you have been editing long enough that you should surely have known this, so I suspect you are encountering a problem I cannot see. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.82.201 (talk) 15:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Please see reply above. Spicemix (talk) 15:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Entries on disambiguation pages[edit]

    Wikipedia has an article Eugene Gardner, starting "Milton Eugene Gardner". It wasn't listed at Gardner (surname), so I added it. Should I have put it in the "E" section, the "M" section, or both? Maproom (talk) 15:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Good question. I looked and con't find guidance for this exact scenario. Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy/Standards comes closeest I guess. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Although the article Eugene Gardner is about somebody who seems noteworthy, it's very feeble. At first glance it has just two sources. But one of these is a mere list entry for "Milton Eugene Gardner", so effectively the article has just a single source. This sole source is titled "Milton E. Gardner" and repeatedly refers to the man as "Milton". Very possibly "Eugene Gardner" is the best title for the article, but if so the article provides no evidence for this. If the current title is indeed the best choice, put him under "E". If, as I suspect, it is not, then first move the article accordingly and then put him under "M". -- Hoary (talk) 22:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Using ChatGPT for proofreading[edit]

    I sometimes use ChatGPT for proofreading my edits, particularly new articles. I submit my text and ask it to "revise it, highlighting any changes in bold." Is that a problem, and should I disclose it anywhere? Amayorov (talk) 16:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read and carefully consider WP:LLM, in particular § Disclosure: Every edit that incorporates LLM output should be marked as LLM-assisted by identifying the name and, if possible, version of the AI in the edit summary. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 03:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is very helpful, thanks a lot! I'll be using more primitive tools, such as the Free Online Grammar Checker, then. Amayorov (talk) 09:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to request a move?[edit]

    So I put in a move request for moving Lenna to Lena, it's currently sitting at the bottom of Talk:Lenna. Did I do it right, or is there a specific protocol to follow? guninvalid (talk) 16:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    guninvalid, the process is at Wikipedia:Requested moves. You need to show that Lena is the WP:COMMONNAME rather than Lenna. Also Lena is a WP:DISAMBIGUATION page, so you could either

    Autoconfirmed Account[edit]

    When will my account be "autoconfirmed" so I can move article from Sandbox to Wikipedia? Mlondon101 (talk) 20:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Your account needs to be four days old and have at least ten edits per WP:AUTOCONFIRM. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why the rush, Mlondon101? You'd be better off ensuring that the main text of User:Mlondon101/sandbox is stripped of external links, and that what the draft says is backed up with references to reliable sources. -- Hoary (talk) 21:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hoary because I got ants in my pants! But, I'll look into those edits. Mlondon101 (talk) 22:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No signatures for sports biographies?[edit]

    Why isn't there any template data for adding signatures to sports biography articles? Athletes very often do so, yet, it can’t be added to improve the articles. Why so? Roasted (talk) 22:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Roastedbeanz1. You can find some general guidance at Wikipedia:Signatures of living persons. There are some special concerns about signatures of living people. Cullen328 (talk) 23:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please[edit]

    I want to read 67.5.97.117 (talk) 23:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Cullen328 (talk) 23:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July 12[edit]

    Request Category Removal For A Wikipedia Article[edit]

    The Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas Wikipedia article has two incorrect categories listed on the page that need to be removed:

    1) American People Who self-identify as being of Lipan Apache Descent

    2) Unrecognized Tribes in the United States.

    The page itself says at the top they are a state recognized tribe. Can someone remove those categories from the page?

    Thank you Whitewolfdog1 (talk) 00:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The page doesn't seem to be protected, I suggest you WP:BOLDLY remove those categories if there is no source for them on the page. Or you can leave an a comment on the talk page. J2UDY7r00CRjH (talk) 01:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, thank you. I'll go ahead and do that then.
    Are there any special instructions for deleting categories? Whitewolfdog1 (talk) 02:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Click on the edit button at the top of the page. Scroll down to the very bottom where you will see a list of categories of the form
    [[Category: category name]]
    Delete the categories whose categorization is not sourced in the references of the article or that are directly contradicted by the references in the article. In the edit summary, give a short description of why you made the change and be sure to mention that you believe the article has not given a source for the claimed categorization given by the categories you are removing. Eg: "removed category x, no source for the claim that article y is in category x." If you check back later and find that someone reverted your changes, go to the talk page of the article and give a longer explanation of your view. Be sure to inform the person that reverted it by using the formula @[[User:UserWhoRevertedYou|UserWhoRevertedYou]] eg. @[[User:Whitewolfdog1|Whitewolfdog1]] which will look like @Whitewolfdog1. If nobody responds to your point after one day then you can change it back to what you believe is appropriate. Most likely this will not be necessary but it may be useful here or in future edits you make. J2UDY7r00CRjH (talk) 03:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your help! This is all very useful information.
    Happy editing :) Whitewolfdog1 (talk) 23:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Whitewolfdog1 I have queried whether the Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas are a state recognized tribe on the article talk page as the article seems to contradict itself. TSventon (talk) 00:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Editors affiliated with the Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas have used Wikipedia from promotion for years (for example, these folk). I am beyond sick of trying to keep up with it all and trying to convince editors to stick to secondary, published citations (right now there's a Facebook post as a citation). I answered on the talk page. There is widespread misunderstanding and misinformation about state recognition. The only entity at this point who can assert state recognition for a Texas tribe would be the State of Texas itself. There was a recent proposed bill to state-recognized the LATT; however, the bill died in committee in 2023. Any fresh, non-involved eyes on this and related articles would be beyond welcome. Yuchitown (talk) 00:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Convention for romanization of author names from foreign language sources? [Resolved][edit]

    Resolved

    I can see that we have {{citation}} parameters for the translations of titles, chapters and quotations of non-english for instance: 

    |title=Tōkyō tawā |script-title=ja:東京タワー |trans-title=Tokyo Tower

    However I cannot see the equivalent parameter for author names. e.g: 

    |script-last1=ko:홍 |trans-last1=Hong |script-first1=ko:이섭 |trans-first1=Yi-Seop

    Therefore, how are these situations best handled? Is there a MOS?

    Example approaches I can think of:

    • Romanized: Hong, Yi-Seop (2011) [1971]. 세종대왕 [Sejong the Great] (in Korean) (9th ed.). Seoul [서울]: Sejong the Great Memorial Society [세종대왕기념사업회]. ISBN 978-89-8275-660-3.
    • Original script: 홍, 이섭 (2011) [1971]. 세종대왕 [Sejong the Great] (in Korean) (9th ed.). Seoul [서울]: Sejong the Great Memorial Society [세종대왕기념사업회]. ISBN 978-89-8275-660-3.
    • Both using first and last fields: Hong [홍], Yi-Seop [이섭] (2011) [1971]. 세종대왕 [Sejong the Great] (in Korean) (9th ed.). Seoul [서울]: Sejong the Great Memorial Society [세종대왕기념사업회]. ISBN 978-89-8275-660-3.
    • Both using author field: Hong Yi-Seop [홍이섭] (2011) [1971]. 세종대왕 [Sejong the Great] (in Korean) (9th ed.). Seoul [서울]: Sejong the Great Memorial Society [세종대왕기념사업회]. ISBN 978-89-8275-660-3.

    Ideally, I think we should provide both to broaden SEO in both languages... but there doesn't seem to be a "clean" way of doing this? Or is there? In the absence of being able to do both via different parameters, is there any community consensus on how to best approach this? Any advice appreciated. Nonabelian (talk) 07:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't see a parameter for that either. I took a brief look at Korea-related FA's and most of the Korean authors only had their names' romanizations listed. WP:MOSKOREA seems to imply romanized spellings are preferred in most places. Per WP:CITEVAR though, you should use whatever style the rest of the article uses. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 08:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, WP:CITEVAR seems to imply there is some discretion. I through I remember reading somewhere that for GA/FA articles, references should be provided either in date order (preferred for science) or alphabetical order (preferred for history)? Maybe I'm imagining things, but clearly romanized references would be easier to order alphabetically. Would it be the {{citation}} talk page that the time, effort and need for paramenters like |script-author1= |script-last1= |script-first1= etc. would be discussed and considered by the community? Nonabelian (talk) 07:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That talk page should be a good place to start, yes. I'm not quite sure what you mean by the order of references, as they are usually ordered by where they appear in the article. Unless you're talking about a WP:GENREF section, in which case I agree romanized spellings should be easier for English-speaking editors to work with. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 08:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks again. Yes, for instance on this article here on Augustus citations are in order of appearance but the references themselves are listed alphabetically. Nonabelian (talk) 09:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Company profile[edit]

    How can I add my company profile on this website 197.156.107.12 (talk) 08:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You cannot. Wikipedia does not host company profiles. Your company's website is the right place for its profile. -- Hoary (talk) 08:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    PS Whether you're an employee, the boss, or an intern, please read Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 10:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I am not confirmed[edit]

    Hi, I have met the criteria for autoconfirmed status (my account is 5 days old and I have made more than 10 edits), but I am still not listed as autoconfirmed. Could someone please help me understand why this is the case and what I can do to resolve it? Thank you! ~~~~ Thyme4563 (talk) 15:04, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thyme4563, your account was created on July 9th, and today is 12th. Even allowing for time zone differences, that can't be 5 days. Maproom (talk) 15:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ohh i must have misread my info Thyme4563 (talk) 15:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You have 18 edits, so about 2 more days and you will be autoconfirmed, if I did the math right. -- ThatOneWolf (ChatEdits 15:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ... or indeffed for promotion, in this case (see two sections below). Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Unable to make any edits[edit]

    I'm unable to make any edits or additions to Wikipedia if the source originates from Republic World. Here is the website link: https://www.republicworld.com/" Let me know if there's anything else you need help with! RBangla (talk) 15:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @RBangla. That is correct. Republic World has been shown to fabricate quotes, fake news, and hoaxes. See here for more details. Shantavira|feed me 15:18, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to be confirmed[edit]

    I have ten edits and my account is only 3 days old and its about to be 4 so and i also need to upload an image for my page. Can you confirm me? Thyme4563 (talk) 15:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You can request this at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Confirmed. DonIago (talk) 15:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you are talking about Draft:Aoban, please don't waste your or our time trying to upload images to it. Even if they are acceptable with regard to copyright (and the images that beginners try to add are very often not acceptable, because they often do not spend any time learning about Wikipedia before trying to add them) they will add absolutely nothing to a piece of unsourced advertising which will shortly be deleted.
    I always advise new editors to not even think about trying to create an article before they have spent some weeks or months practising editing and learning how Wikipedia works. This is even more true of editors with a conflict of interest.
    Please read what Wikipedia is not very carefully, especially WP:NOTPROMO.
    The only circumstances in which Wikipedia might possibly accept an article about Aoban is if the article were entirely based on what people wholly unconnected with Aoban had chosen to publish about it in reliable sources. Your knowledge of Aoban is of no use whatever in creating an article about it, and nor is anything written, published, or commissioned by Aoban or its associates. (which is one of the reasons why editing with a conflict of interest is difficult). ColinFine (talk) 16:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thyme4563, your (deleted) draft tells me We are working on the Aoban Movie. We are? I am? If so, then where is my paycheck, Thyme4563? -- Hoary (talk) 07:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't add interlanguage link[edit]

    I have made more than 50 edits and this account has been around for quite a long time (definitely more than 4 days). When I try to add a language, it says I can't because the page is semi-protected. It keeps saying that the account has to be created for longer than 4 days and have 50 edits. Can you help me? Jusoengpp07 (talk) 17:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Jusoengpp07: Interlanguage links are added at Wikidata where you only have two edits: wikidata:Special:Contributions/Jusoengpp07. If you link the pages you are trying to connect then we can probably do it for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. I just want to link this page​ to the English version of Artificial intelligence because It's not currently available in my native language yet. Jusoengpp07 (talk) 19:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And this one too if that's possible. Jusoengpp07 (talk) 19:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jusoengpp07: I have connected km:បញ្ញាសិប្បនិម្មិត to artificial intelligence (Q11660), and km:ធរណីវិទ្យា to geology (Q1069). The Khmer articles now have interlanguage links to all articles in those Wikidata items. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you so much Jusoengpp07 (talk) 19:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No stashed content found[edit]

    What does this mean? and how do I fix it. Wiki won't publish my content. Chalco48 (talk) 17:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This means the editing interface has been open too long and the cache has been cleared on Wikipedia's server. If you can copy your content, and paste it into a freshly opened editor in a separate tab, you can save your work and publish your changes.
    To avoid this in the future, it's best to try to publish your changes frequently. I prefer to limit myself to twenty minutes between publishing, and don't encounter this error anymore. Folly Mox (talk) 17:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This only ever seems to happen in the visual editor. I've never seen the problem in the source editor. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Vector reference popups are broken[edit]

    Reference popups on Vector (?useskin=vector) now have huge text, bigger than page text. Maybe this is because of the font increase in the new skin. It looks broken. 78.3.197.2 (talk) 18:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It's discussed at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ReferenceTooltips.js#Update request 9 July 2024. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Tyvm, good I'm not the only one who said something. 78.3.197.2 (talk) 19:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, please can you explain why my long held wikipedia entry has been deleted? Thanks[edit]

    Leela Floyd Meedper (talk) 19:34, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Meedper The article was deleted in 2022 after this discussion. As in many cases, the issue was that the sources did not demonstrate notability. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Meedper, an article with that title was deleted in December 2022, following this discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leela Floyd. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Meedper: please dont edit archived, closed dicussions. They are kept for the sake of transparency and editing them after the fact undermines that. -- D'n'B-t -- 21:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Meedper, Notability in terms of editing Wikipedia does not mean importance; rather it means "enough about this subject has been published (in reliable sources) on which to base a properly cited Wikipedia article."
    If enough has been published about you, personally, to demonstrate your notability, then someone could (re-)create an article about you titled Leela Floyd, but the 2022 Deletion discussion did not find enough material. Note also that Wikipedia:Autobiography is strongly discouraged here because it is very, very difficult for an individual to write about themselves with the necessary detachment and neutrality.
    It is more likely that material could be found to validly create an article about your book titled Indian Music (textbook) or similar (red because there isn't one yet).
    If you can, in this thread, give us links to and/or bibliographic details of at least three pieces of substantial length, written by people unconnected with you and published in WP:Reliable sources, that discuss the book, someone might well be willing to create an article about it. Possible sources would include contemporary reviews in reputable music, educational and other journals and periodicals, newspaper reports (have you kept cuttings?), paragraphs in books about music education, and so on.
    What gets recorded for posterity (and can therefore be used as a Wikipedia source) is sometimes chancy, but Wikipedia insists on using published (and independent) material only in order to uphold its fundamental policy of WP:Verifiability. Hope this helps {The poster forrmerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.82.201 (talk) 08:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Using pdf of newspaper articles which aren't in established archives[edit]

    I have several newspaper cuttings from many years past that I would like to use as citation references in my article, but they haven't been archived by the publishers (Bristol Evening Post being one of them). I have original cuttings which I have digitised, can I use a pdf of any cutting as a citation? I can provide copyright details and date of publication. As these are from published newspapers am I right in thinking they are in the public domain, as long as I credit where they come from? Jjarchivist (talk) 22:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It would depend on the copyright law of where the newspapers originated from. Based on doing a mini search, the Bristol Post is a United Kingdom newspapers. I'm not sure when Bristol Evening Post changed it name to Bristol Post but I believe they are the same thing. I would suggest researching the copyright laws in the United Kingdom and/or reach out to the publication company to see if they are fine of having old newspapers uploaded to the Internet Archive and cite them here. Soafy234 (talk) 23:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sources do not have to be online.
    The important parts of a citations are bibliographic information such as author, title, date, publication, page number (if available): a link is a convenience for the reader or reviewer, not an essential part of the citation. It follows that if you have only hard copies, you can still cite them - as long as you have the publication, date, etc. There is no need to upload the cutting (which in many cases would be a copyright violation anyway).
    No, your cuttings are not in the public domain, unless you can positively show that there is a reason why - age is one possible reason. See WP:Public domain. ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July 13[edit]

    Family categories[edit]

    I was creating a category for the acting/politics family, Category:Lapid family (Philippines), and I am wondering, do you add the films that one member of the family starred into the category? And do you add the positions that one member of the family held? All answers will be appreciated.

    Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 02:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Citation needed within article?[edit]

    An editor removed a "Citation needed" template from Faye Dunaway#1967–1968: Early films and breakthrough with the edit summary "Already indexed right here on Wiki". The content in question is "Preminger's film did not meet critical or box-office success, but Dunaway retained notice enough to earn a Golden Globe Award nomination for New Star of the Year."

    I assume that Wikipedia:Verifiability means that verification should appear in the article in which the content appears -- not just somewhere on Wikipedia. Am i wrong in that assumption? Eddie Blick (talk) 03:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Teblick: you are correct: Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source for itself. The citation(s) must be copied from those other articles into this article. Please assume good faith (WP:AGF) and work together with the other editor to replace the "Citation needed" template with the appropriate citations(s) from the other articles. The article's talk page is a good place to collaborate. -Arch dude (talk) 04:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    New user playing with multiple accounts[edit]

    Should I have reported <this situation> (userlist) to some admin or is an {{uw-agf-sock}} warning enough as I have done? Not that I expect to run into exactly this situation again - and posting about it here already brings awareness in this case.

    These clearly violate the socking policy, I only warned because they have not edited outside userspace. – 2804:F1...BC:2770 (talk) 03:58, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bare URL and dead link.[edit]

    I've recently been trying to expand bare referances. One issue I've come across is articles with permanantly dead bare links. I've seen some editors label these "dead link" and others with "bare url". Should these links be tagged as dead, bare, or both? In case I wasn't clear, here is an example of a page with this issue. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 04:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath Bare URLs are really only fixable if the link is not dead yet, so tagging it after the fact isn't helpful. So I think it would be better practice to tag as just dead. It's probably not worth making edits to fix though. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 05:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay thanks. That was my thought as well but wanted to double check. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 05:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath, the logical next step in a case like this is to carry out a competent internet search in attempt to verify the poorly referenced assertion. If you discover a reliable source, then use it to create a new reference to replace the dead links that are so common with bare URLs. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    {{dead link}} is helpful; {{bare url}} is harmful. {{bare url}} will often induce bots and incautious editors with imperfect citation scripts to come round and garble the reference, leaving it with a source free of any maintenance tags where the full citation information amounts to |title=Page not found|website=ema.europa.eu or similar. Folly Mox (talk) 14:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was a big ol' fight about this a few years back. Folly Mox (talk) 14:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for your reply it makes a lot of sense. I'm currently using the cleanup listing to find the bare URLs so once it updates I'll replace the bare url templates with dead link templates and see what I can find as far as alternative sources. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 17:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath: I think "step zero" is to try to see if the URL was archived. If so, build a citation from the archived copy. -Arch dude (talk) 15:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I do usually check however I was specifically reffering to links that aren't archived. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 17:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How do i change the font size?[edit]

    How do i change the font size? 2601:98A:4102:5AC0:35A8:51D6:3FDF:D2F4 (talk) 09:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Click the glasses icon at top of pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to reverse a redirect?[edit]

    Currently, Turbinate reduction surgery redirects to Turbinectomy. I would like to reverse the redirect: rename Turbinectomy to Turbinate reduction surgery, and have Turbinectomy point to it instead. The reasons for the move are outlined here.

    How should I go about doing this? Do I need to delete Turbinate reduction surgery first? Amayorov (talk) 11:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Isn't turbinectomy the more common term? Doug butler (talk) 14:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The more common term for one of the two surgeries, according to the sources quoted on the linked talkpage.
    I feel like this might be able to be accomplished by a round-robin move by someone with pagemover rights (Turbinate reduction surgery → Turbinoplasty without leaving a redirect, Turbinectomy → Turbinate reduction surgery), but I'm not sure if the history of the redirect Turbinate reduction surgery is considered trivial enough, and the move may require admin rights. Assuming in any case consensus is reached for the rename. Folly Mox (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Amayorov, and welcome to the Teahouse. You have done the right thing by opening a discussion; but you should wait several days for input from other people knoweldgeable about the subject before going ahead. If nobody replies in, say, a week, you can take that as acceptance.
    When the time comes, you can request the move at WP:RM. ColinFine (talk) 15:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    wikipedia's search engine[edit]

    I am curious about the ordering of results from Wikipedia's internal search engine. (1) Is its algorithm described somewhere? (2) Where might one send comments on the algorithm? Mdmi (talk) 13:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Usually the results come back ordered by pageview, although I don't remember this being documented anywhere. For the factors used to determine which autocomplete suggestions to display, there's fairly good details at mw:Extension:CirrusSearch/CompletionSuggester. The main help page for the search engine is at mw:Help:CirrusSearch. The whole codebase is open source, so if you're comp sci enough you might be interested in the GitHub repo. In terms of reaching the devs, they'll see bug reports at phab:tag/mediawiki-search, but I'm not sure where general feedback would be best received. What are your comments specifically? Perhaps we can figure out how best to get in touch, or even solve your problem directly with additional information. Folly Mox (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh right I forgot the main thrust of the question. You might find :mw:Help:CirrusSearch § Explicit sort orders an informative read. Folly Mox (talk) 14:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Vandalism help request from Googolplexus[edit]

    I have noticed some vandalism at Cockatoo, Victoria. Namely, a bunch of different IP addresses keep adding something about 'Gryphen's Bachelor Pad' to this article and surrounding areas like Emerald, Victoria. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? I reverted the latest vandalism myself but they keep coming back so I was wondering if there was a way to get them to stop doing it - though it comes from different IPs a lot of the time so I'm not sure. Thank you, Googolplexus (talk) 16:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Googolplexus. I do not think the vandalism is frequent enough to justify semi-protection. Just keep an eye on the articles. Perhaps an edit filter might be useful. Cullen328 (talk) 18:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, thank you Googolplexus (talk) 18:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Revising move request statement after the fact[edit]

    What is the correct protocol for revising a move request statement after the fact at Talk:Disagreement (disambiguation)? --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Infobox parameter -- display as link[edit]

    I would like an infobox parameter to display as a link. An example of this may be found at, say, the infobox in the wikipedia page for Oxford, UK: Oxford wherein the parameter "Demonym" appears in the infobox as a link. What is the standard way to do this? Neither the "Edit Source" on that wikipedia page, nor the relevant Infobox Template page Template:Infobox settlement seem to give any clue on how this should be done. Jriley (talk) 19:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    |population_demonym=[[Oxonian]] did not work for you?
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 19:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Trappist. Your code might work, but I don't see the double brackets on the Edit Source page. All I see for that line is:
    | population_demonym = Oxonian
    ... and it's the bit of code that tells the wp server to serve up the parameter's corresponding value as a link that I would like to use. Jriley (talk) 19:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you try: |population_demonym=Oxonian → |population_demonym=[[Oxonian]]? Do the change manually or there is a 'magic button' in the source editor header that looks like a pair of chain links. Highlight 'Oxonian' and click the magic button. Choose the destination that you want and click the 'Insert link' button.
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 19:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks again Trappist. It's the parameter ("Demonym") I need to show as a link, not the value ("Oxonian"). This would mean something like:
    | [[Demonym|population_demonym]] = Oxonian
    ... which breaks the infobox. Jriley (talk) 19:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I change the title of my submitted draft while not being an autoconfirmed user?[edit]

    Recently, I submitted my article draft for review, but after doing so, realized that the title of my article was still User:MY NAME/Sandbox. Is there any way to change this or will it be removed if my article is accepted to publish? I am not an autoconfirmed user so I think this might make the process harder. Henry Trevithick (talk) 19:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Henry Trevithick, I have moved page User:Henry Trevithick/sandbox to Draft:Health effects of ultra-processed foods as article titles generally use sentence case. Usually drafts don't get reviewed immediately and someone will move them from sandbox to draftspace if necessary. TSventon (talk) 20:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    United States shootings[edit]

    I wanted to know the statistics for the number of people who got shot in the three major cities: New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago on the 4th of July 2024? It strikes me so sad that Independence Day has become a holiday of so much violence!

    Thank you for your efforts to respond in advance. GW 2601:240:D981:79D0:202E:A778:4FA8:1C6B (talk) 20:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    GW, you can try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I get the page open to type in code for my job to see screen[edit]

    How do I get the page open to type in code for my job to see screen Tamishelton (talk) 21:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    what rights to remove a page from *someone else's* watchlist?[edit]

    Just curious, what level of "mop bucket" is required to have the ability to remove page from a users watchlist. Do administrators or bureaucrats have that ability or would it take office action? (I know it seems silly, but I once actually had a new user indicate that someone should remove a page that this user "owned" (since they worked for the group) from my watchlist). Is this a WP:VPT question?Naraht (talk) 21:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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