Talk:Gadolinium
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Article changed over to new Wikipedia:WikiProject Elements format by schnee. Elementbox converted 11:31, 10 July 2005 by Femto (previous revision was that of 13:43, 9 July 2005). 9 July 2005
Information Sources[edit]
Some of the text in this entry was rewritten from Los Alamos National Laboratory - Gadolinium. Data for the table was obtained from the sources listed on the subject page and Wikipedia:WikiProject Elements but was reformatted and converted into SI units.
Chemical/mineralogical errors[edit]
"Gadolinium is a constituent in many minerals such as monazite and bastnäsite, which are oxides." --> wrong: "monazite" (it is actually a group of minerals an not a single mineral; so is true for the latter) is not an oxide, but a phosphate; "bastnäsite" is also not an oxide: it is a carbonate.Eudialytos (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Eudialytos (talk) 23:05, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Refs.:
- https://www.mindat.org/min-2750.html
- https://mineralogy-ima.org/Minlist.htm Eudialytos (talk) 23:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Correction for Gd b. p. value (among others)[edit]
Because only editors are permitted to change b. p. values in Wikipedia, I submitted the following to veteran editor Polyamorph on 30 September 2023 without any response. I submit it here
Wikipedia B. P. values[edit]
Dear Polyamorph,
This is VatievonHans who is unable to login on my new Pavilion PC or to reset my password. I have graduated from densities & m. p. to b. p. Below are issues for your consideration because I am not qualified to change b. p. values on Wikipedia. Because Wikipedia accepts the b. p. temp from Zhang et al. (J. Chem. Eng. Data 2011, 56, 328-337) for Tb at 3396 K rather than the CRC value at 3503 K (or 103% of Zhang) and for Ir at 4403 K rather than the CRC value at 4701 K (or 107% of Zhang), should the current b. p. temp at 1802 K for Eu on Wikipedia be replaced with the 1713 K value from Zhang et al. (where 1802 K is 105% of Zhang)?
For Gd, Wikipedia & Zhang claim b. p. at 3273 K, but the 2016 CRC Handbook shows (p. 4-14) 3273 °C (not K) and adding 273 = 3546 K (which is 108.34% of 3273). Zhang et al. do show (in Table 1) a CRC value of 3546 K as well as values of 3533 K and 3539 K from two other handbooks along with 3273 K (°C?) from two different handbooks.
Below is my 9/13/23 email to the corresponding author for Zhang et al. (before I noticed the Gd issue).
Dear Professor Shoufeng Yang:
Concerning J. Chem. Eng. Data 2011, 56, 328-337, the "corrected" B. P. values are the same in Tables 11 & 13 for Ba, Be, C, Pd, Pr, Rh, Sn, and Y, but the Yb value in Table 11 is 116% of the value in Table 13 (1703 vs 1466 K), the Tm value in Table 11 is 110% of that in Table 13 (2203 vs 2003 K), and the Nb values differ slightly at 100.9% (5017 vs 4973 K). Perhaps errata could be submitted to the journal to avoid confusion for other readers. Sincerely, Thomas A. Hinners a recovering chemist 68.108.51.9 (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC) 68.108.51.9 (talk) 17:58, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
citation styles[edit]
A mix of citation styles. Maybe there's an automated way of aligning. Spicemix (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Spicemix ? Can you give some examples? All of the refs I see are use the "ref" tag. Johnjbarton (talk) 16:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnjbarton Thanks for responding. For example, Raymond KN, Pierre VC is one approved citation style and Kondev, F. G.; Wang, M.; Huang, W. J. is another. Danevich, F.A. is simply wrong so far as I know. As is Durrell, J H; Dennis, A R . Only one style should be applied in an article. I don't wish just to drive by saying this, but I can't really justify spending my time on it. Cheers. Spicemix (talk) 18:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- These all look fine to me in terms of style. The vast majority of articles I edit use the ref tag and mostly use Template:cite. This is the style produced by the ProveIt tool. Johnjbarton (talk) 19:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Johnjbarton Thanks for responding. For example, Raymond KN, Pierre VC is one approved citation style and Kondev, F. G.; Wang, M.; Huang, W. J. is another. Danevich, F.A. is simply wrong so far as I know. As is Durrell, J H; Dennis, A R . Only one style should be applied in an article. I don't wish just to drive by saying this, but I can't really justify spending my time on it. Cheers. Spicemix (talk) 18:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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