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Today's featured article for October 29, 2024
Centre players on their sideline during the game The 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game was a regular-season collegiate American football game played on October 29, 1921, at Harvard Stadium in Boston, Massachusetts. The contest featured the undefeated Centre Praying Colonels, representing Centre College, and the undefeated Harvard Crimson, representing Harvard University. Centre entered the game as heavy underdogs, as Harvard had received 3-to-1 odds to win prior to kickoff. The only score of the game came less than two minutes into the third quarter when Centre quarterback Bo McMillin rushed for a touchdown. The conversion failed but the Colonels' defense held for the remainder of the game, and Centre won the game 6–0. The game is widely viewed as one of the largest upsets in college football history. It is often referred to by the shorthand "C6H0"; this originated shortly after the game when a Centre professor remarked that Harvard had been poisoned by this "impossible" chemical formula. (Full article...) Archive By email More featured articles About view – talk – edit – history – watch
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Removed: 1945 - At Gimbels Department Store in New York City the first ballpoint pens go on sale (price: $12.50 each).

The article specifies trhat biros were made in Argentina two years previous to this (and presumably were also sold there, not merely stockpiled indefinately). So the anniversary is of the first US sales, not the first World sales ... and we're not into US-centricism, non? --Tagishsimon

Good call. I'm against US-centricism and I missed that. Thanks. -- PFHLai 12:32, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Black Tuesday

I read in my local paper that today was Black Tuesday in 1929. There is an article for it, under The Wall Street Crash of '29. THis is an important event, and it triggered the worst economic dperession to date. Should it be included?

1929 - The New York Stock Exchange crashes in what will be called the Crash of '29 or Black Tuesday, ending the Great Bull Market of the 1920s and beginning the Great Depression. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Modern Prometheus (talk • contribs) 12:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. The Wall Street Crash of 1929 started on "Black Thursday" the week before. This crash was mentioned on MainPage on October 24. Let's not repeat-feature the same events. Thanks. --PFHLai 09:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Moved to Ineligible: John Glenn (maintenance)
Omitted: Wall Street Crash of 1929; M25 motorway (ineligible—maintenance); 951 Gaspra; Gothenburg discothèque fire; 1999 Orissa cyclone
Included: Walter Raleigh (3rd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Turkey (first appearance; blurb previously featured Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, which is featured on November 10, and is making its 8th appearance, last in 2010); Safsaf massacre (first appearance); ARPANET (3rd appearance, last in 2005; moved from November 21); Hurricane Mitch (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 12:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: Walter Raleigh now ineligible again, replaced with Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe (first appearance)

2013 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): M25 motorway; John Glenn
Omitted: Safsaf massacre; Hurricane Mitch; Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe
Included: Mount Hood (first appearance); Battle of Wauhatchie (first appearance; 150th anniversary); Truth and Reconciliation Commission (South Africa) (3rd appearance, last in 2010; 15th anniversary)
Repeats: Turkey (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total; 90th anniversary); ARPANET (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:39, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Omitted: Battle of Wauhatchie; Turkey; ARPANET
Included: Cyrus the Great (first appearance); Wall Street Crash of 1929 (8th appearance, last in 2011); Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: Mount Hood (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Truth and Reconciliation Commission (South Africa) (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:57, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is too late now for this year, but I think it would be helpful to note in the entry regarding the European Constitution that it was never ratified by the member states. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:01, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Cyrus the Great; Mount Hood; Wall Street Crash of 1929; Truth and Reconciliation Commission (South Africa); Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe
Included: Walter Raleigh (3rd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Wauhatchie (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee (first appearance); ARPANET (5th appearance, last in 2013); Marmaray (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:42, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Truth and Reconciliation Commission (South Africa) (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Wauhatchie; Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee; ARPANET; Marmaray
Included: Mount Hood (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Safsaf massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2012); M25 motorway (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 30th anniversary); 951 Gaspra (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 25th anniversary)
Repeats: Walter Raleigh (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Italian battleship Giulio Cesare; Hurricane Sandy; One-child policy
Omitted: Walter Raleigh; Safsaf massacre; M25 motorway (ineligible—maintenance); 951 Gaspra
Included: Cyrus the Great (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee (2nd appearance, last in 2015; 100th anniversary); Cal Poly football team C-46 crash (first appearance); 1999 Odisha cyclone (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Dirck Coornhert (first appearance); Narcisa de León (first appearance); Lipman Bers (first appearance)
Repeats: Mount Hood (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 225th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 04:05, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018

It may be too late to include this, but October 29, 2018 is the 100th anniversary of one of the last surviving star actresses of the silent era, Diana Serra Cary -- known in her time on screen as "Baby Peggy". I don't think it's too much to her her listed in the births/deaths section on this day, given the significance of the anniversary. :-) Stolengood (talk) 03:50, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Ticker tape parade
New articles (unused): Dan Emmett
Omitted: Cyrus the Great; Mount Hood; Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee; Cal Poly football team C-46 crash; 1999 Odisha cyclone; Dirck Coornhert; Narcisa de León; Lipman Bers
Included: Walter Raleigh (5th appearance, last in 2016; 400th anniversary); Don Giovanni (8th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Safsaf massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 70th anniversary); John Glenn (5th appearance, last in 2008; 20th anniversary); One-child policy (first appearance); Marie of Romania (first appearance); Diana Serra Cary (first appearance; 100th birthday); Carlos Guastavino (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:02, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Deleted: Ticker tape parade (moved to October 28)
New articles (unused): George Abbot (bishop) (moved from October 19); Harriet Powers
Omitted: Walter Raleigh; Safsaf massacre; John Glenn; One-child policy (ineligible—maintenance); Marie of Romania; Diana Serra Cary; Carlos Guastavino (deleted—moved to October 28)
Included: Republic Day (Turkey) (rescued from Ineligible); Italian battleship Giulio Cesare (first appearance); ARPANET (6th appearance, last in 2015; 50th anniversary); 1999 Odisha cyclone (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 20th anniversary); Dan Emmett (first appearance); Joseph Goebbels (3rd appearance, last in 2006; previously appeared on February 18); Jimmy Savile (first appearance)
Repeats: Don Giovanni (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:30, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Deleted: Wall Street Crash of 1929 (moved to October 24)
Moved to Ineligible: Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Kafr Qasim massacre (maintenance)
Omitted: Don Giovanni; Italian battleship Giulio Cesare; ARPANET; 1999 Odisha cyclone; Dan Emmett; Joseph Goebbels; Jimmy Savile
Included: Cyrus the Great (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Walter Raleigh (6th appearance, last in 2018); Safsaf massacre (4th appearance, last in 2018); California Polytechnic State University football team plane crash (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 60th anniversary); Marmaray (2nd appearance, last in 2015); George Abbot (bishop) (2nd appearance, last in 2019; moved from October 19); Marie of Romania (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Frances Hodgson Burnett (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 18:22, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Harriet Powers (maintenance)
Omitted: Walter Raleigh; California Polytechnic State University football team plane crash; Marmaray; George Abbot (bishop); Marie of Romania; Frances Hodgson Burnett
Included: Mount Hood (5th appearance, last in 2017); M25 motorway (3rd appearance, last in 2016); 951 Gaspra (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 30th anniversary); Dan Emmett (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Franz von Papen (first appearance); Woody Herman (first appearance)
Repeats: Cyrus the Great (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Safsaf massacre (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Entry for 1955

The entry for 1955 "An explosion, likely caused by a World War II–era naval mine, capsized the Soviet ship Novorossiysk in the harbor of Sevastopol, with the loss of 608 men." is discrepant with the article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_battleship_Giulio_Cesare, which claims that 617 men were lost. Please fix one or the other. 98.151.249.222 (talk) 06:07, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]