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2021 IMF Nominal GDP of Pakistan, source?
[edit]The "IMF, World Economic Outlook Database, October 2021" does not give a Nominal GDP figure for Pakistan in 2021, at least in terms of the relatively stable American dollar. The Nominal GDP figure is however given in American dollars for 2020, and it is much lower than 347 billion, at 261 billon and 726 million dollars. Where is the source for the 347 billion dollar figure currently quoted for Pakistan in that IMF dataset, and if there really is a source why isn't it highlighted in the table somewhere relevant so that it can be then checked up on for its reliability?
Suspecious political motivated edits regarding the recent mess of ranking change
[edit]The recent change of ranking convention has been a total mess caused by some IPs from specific country who attempted to hint their political belief at a non-political related topic. @北京555 pursued a one-side claim some entries have no IMF information which should be blanked, but some entries for example such as Taiwan and Kosovo have been listed among the IMF yearbooks for years, were excluded from the ranking due to their partially recognized status, but many non-sovereign entities such as Hongkong and Macau are given a rank, I don't really get the idea about it. This issue has to be resolved by an overall disscussion joint by more eligible editors who can make a coherent body of all GDP-related lists. They all used different instructions of the ranks and it seems a total chaos that does not have a consistent standard. Sheherherhers (talk) 12:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- A few months ago a consensus was reached, as you can see on the discussion page that included a third opinion. 北京555 (talk) 21:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- The table is ranked according to the IMF & World Bank, which does not include territories and countries with partial recognition that are not ranked. If the matter is "political" you are welcome to contact the IMF and the World Bank who decided not to mark or generalise these countries. 北京555 (talk) 21:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also as it’s been said above it does not include countries which there is no available up to date economic data such as Syria , Lebanon and Cuba 北京555 (talk) 21:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, the IMF have long included statistical entries for Taiwan, Palestine and KOsovo in the yearbooks, you only delibrately disregard about the information. Sheherherhers (talk) 04:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to be your one-side resistence for the ranking instruction change as I didn't really see anyone giving an explicit APPROVAL about your "consensus" and there were only 3 editors involved to your previous discussion, and you claimed that's a consensus?? The version with no blanked ranks have been existed for at least past four years, that shall be you to rise a WP:RfC for general discussion in order to build a consistent standard regarding the renew version, I only reverted it to the accepted version that it used to be. Sheherherhers (talk) 04:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is another point of concern regarding this matter.
- There are a total of 4 Wikipedia pages related to list of countries by gdp.
- List of countries by GDP (nominal),
- List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita,
- List of countries by GDP (PPP),
- List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita.
- The problem is that even though all the pages use the data released by the IMF and sort and order the data by that, they treat countries like Taiwan and Kosovo very differently on each page.
- On the GDP and PPP per capita pages, Taiwan and Kosovo have a grey background,
- while on the GDP per capita and PPP pages, Taiwan and Kosovo have a white background like the other countries.
- In former versions, the condition was simply "whether or not there is individual IMF data", regardless of whether the region was a country or not, or whether it was not a limited recognition.
- In other words, the condition for a grey background and no ranking number to be displayed was no IMF data . In that version, countries with individual IMF data, such as Taiwan and Kosovo, were properly ranked, and countries without IMF data, such as North Korea and Syria, had a grey background.
- Moreover, the current version of GDP page does not even rank countries that are members of the IMF and do not have limited recognition, such as Sri Lanka and Lebanon.
- To resolve this current strange situation, I would like to make a suggestion.
- In all four pages of GDP, GDP per capita, PPP, and PPP per capita, the criteria for not ranking numbering is set to no IMF data .
- This is the same state as the previous version.
- No matter what conclusion is reached regarding how to number the rankings in this discussion, I hope that the handling on all four pages will be unified. Minchuchui (talk) 12:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- You probably just didn't read. It is clearly written that countries marked in gray are countries that are not members of the IMF, with limited recognition, and countries for which there is no up-to-date economic data such as Lebanon or Cuba. A few months ago we talked about this issue and defended the agreement that this is better, in addition to that I brought a third opinion that sided with it. 北京555 (talk) 19:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- For example of a RfC discussion:
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Talk:Taiwan/Archive_30#RfC:_Taiwan,_"country"_or_"state"
- The table is ranked according to the IMF & World Bank, which does not include territories and countries with partial recognition that are not ranked. If the matter is "political" you are welcome to contact the IMF and the World Bank who decided not to mark or generalise these countries. 北京555 (talk) 21:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Sheherherhers (talk) 04:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- As we have already said, we reached a consensus that included a third opinion. If you want to change the existing version, you will have to get a new consensus. 北京555 (talk) 08:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you read the talk page you would know that the page was not like this for four years, for years it was like this and then changed and then once again it was accepted like this, the last consensus received regarding the page was a few months ago, if you want to change it you will need a new consensus, yet does can you specify what you want to change? 北京555 (talk) 09:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Crimea is de jure part of Ukraine, illegally occupied by "russia", and is colored with different tint, making it look like it's not Ukrainian territory.
[edit]Following that logics, you could use diferent tint to occupied Zaprizhia, Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts. Or the whole country, why bother with such intricacies and nuances? 91.189.20.26 (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- wikipedia editors don't decide what is or isn't legitimate. The reality is just depicted as it is. 0123Qwerty3210 (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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