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A new article about systemic bias on Wikipedia
[edit]Wikipedia's Indian problem: settler colonial erasure of native American knowledge and history on the world's largest encyclopedia Pecopteris (talk) 02:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- The paper claims "Freoh was banned from editing, and Wikipedia administrators blocked their account from contributing to Wikipedia beyond their own talk page. It is one of the best examples of editor erasure." Freoh was never banned from editing, nor from contributing beyond their own talk page. If that is one of the best examples, I am not confident in the rest of the paper. CMD (talk) 01:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not that I care or know who User:Froeh is, but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=User%3AFreoh&type=block
- I'm going to move my above comment to a new section because I would like to improve editing for Indigenous editors Yuchitown (talk) 02:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- That link supports exactly what I stated. CMD (talk) 02:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- The block log says Freoh is blocked indefinitely. This seems like the opposite of "Freoh was never banned from editing." But again, I don't know this person or their situation. Yuchitown (talk) 03:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- The restrictions applied only to the Wikipedia namespace and the user talk space. They did and do not limit any of the actual article editing. CMD (talk) 03:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- The block log says Freoh is blocked indefinitely. This seems like the opposite of "Freoh was never banned from editing." But again, I don't know this person or their situation. Yuchitown (talk) 03:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- That link supports exactly what I stated. CMD (talk) 02:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
How to improve Wikipedia for Indigenous editors of the Americas?
[edit]I'm unsure of what the solutions might be I've seen Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine). I don't know if it would be possible to create similar essays (seems like essay first, to possibly become a guideline in future years with a less actively hostile climate), such as Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (Indigenous peoples of North America). Feminist scholars championed the practice of citing women authors; don't know if this practice is mentioned anywhere in Wikipedia protocols. Yuchitown (talk) 18:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Yuchitown, perhaps a List of Indigenous newspapers in North America could be created and a discussion of these sources reliability could ensue? Below are some sources (sorry no links yet, will try to add them soon).
- Indian Country Today (an enterprise of the Oneida Nation of New York, covers the Indigenous world, including American Indians, Alaska Natives and First Nations)
- Ak-Chin O'odham Runner (Ak-Chin Indian Community, Maricopa, Arizona)
- Bacone Indian and the Baconian (Bacone College, Muskogee, Oklahoma)
- Cherokee Phoenix (Cherokee Advocate) and Cherokee Voices (Tahlequah, Oklahoma)
- Hocak Worak (Ho-Chunk Nation, Black River Falls, Wisconsin)
- Hopi Action News (Hopi Tribe in Hopitutskwa, Arizona)
- Native Nevadan (Inter-Tribal Council of Nevada)
- Navajo Times (Window Rock, Arizona)
- Osage News (Pawhuska, Oklahoma)
- Rawhide Press (Spokane Tribe, City of Spokane, Washington)
- Win Awenen Nisitotung (Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians, Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan)
- The Eastern Door (Kahnawake (Mohawk), Canada)
- Native News Online (A subsidiary of Indian Country Media)
- ICT (IndiJ Public Media) (Founded as the Lakota Times newspaper)
- Tribal Business News (A subsidiary of Indian Country Media)
- National Native News (Koahnic Broadcasting Corp., Albuquerque)
- Indianz.com
- KSUT radio (primarily Southern Ute, Navajo, Jicarilla Nations of Northern New Mexico, as well as the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe of Southwest Colorado)
- The Native Press (Independent news organization)
- Native Public Media (a network of 57 Native radio stations and 4 television stations)
- The Southern Ute Drum (Southern Ute Tribe, Colorado, New Mexico)
- Windspeaker (owned by the Aboriginal Multi-Media Society of Alberta.)
- News from Native California (multi-tribal quarterly magazine)
- First Nations Drum newspaper (Canada's largest Indigenous newspaper)
- Lakota Times (Pine Ridge Reservation, South Dakota)
- Gila River Indian News (Gila River Indian Community, Arizona)
- O'odham Action News (Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community)
- Netherzone (talk) 04:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is amazing! You are brilliant! Yuchitown (talk) 14:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are many more, these are just what I could easily find on Google. Some of the above already have WP articles, so that will be a good place to start a List-article which can be linked at the IPNA project as well. Netherzone (talk) 15:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- A few more, mostly from Canada:
- Turtle Island News (based out of the Grand River Territory of the Six Nations)
- APTN National News (Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada) and APTN (Aboriginal People's Television Network)
- CBC Indigenous (latest news and current affairs from Indigenous communities across Canada, an affiliate of CBC news, radio, television)
- Aboriginal Multi-Media Society (AMMSA), Canada
- Anishinabek News (monthly community newspaper is produced by the Communications Unit of the Anishinabek Nation at the head office in Nipissing First Nation)
- The Discourse (ommunity-powered journalism to underserved communities, including Indigenous communities in British Columbia)
- Ha-Shilth-Sa (Canada's oldest First Nation's Newspaper, and is the "newspaper of record" of the Nuu-chah-nulth people, published by the Nuu-chah-nulth Tribal Council, West Coast Vancouver Island)
- Ku'ku'kwes (news website dedicated to covering Indigenous news in Atlantic Canada)
- Northern News Services Limited (news aggregator published by Northern News Services, including Northwest Territories News, Nunavut News, the Yellowknifer)
- Nunatsiaq News (newspaper of record for Nunavut and the Nunavik territory of Quebec)
- The Two Row Times (news publication, Ontario Indigenous peoples as well as Haudenosaunee peoples of the US)
- TVO Indigenous, (a subsidiary of Television Ontario)
- Wawatay News (published in both English and Indigenous languages of northern Ontario, including Ojibway, Oji-Cree, and Cree)
- Muskrat Magazine (online Indigenous arts and culture magazine)
- The Nation Magazine (not the same as The Nation published in the US. This one is an independent Indigenous news source serving the Cree of James Bay, including Northern Quebec and Ontario)
- Tusaayaksat Magazine (news for the Inuvialuit People with a focus on arts, culture, and history)
- The Tyee (online news magazine from British Columbia focused on the West Coast from Alaska to Northern California
- The Circle (newspaper with an Indigenous perspective based in Minneapolis)
- This is amazing! You are brilliant! Yuchitown (talk) 14:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are others that no longer publish like the Métis Voyager, newsletter of the Métis Nation of Ontario, the Saskatchewan Sage. I saw a lot of these on various university library websites in both the US and Canada. When I find the time will also check Mexico and other regions/countries of North America (altho my Spanish isn't great...). Netherzone (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also found this on WP List of Indigenous periodicals in Canada, that could be useful as can many categories already in existence that could be mined for additional publication and news sources): Category:First Nations newspapers, Category:First Nations magazines, Category:Native American magazines, Category:Native American newspapers, Category:Defunct Native American newspapers, Category:First Nations mass media, Category:Indigenous mass media in Canada, Category:Indigenous mass media, Category: Native American radio, Category:Navajo mass media, etc! - Netherzone (talk) 16:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I've started List of Indigenous newspapers in North America. Please feel free to contribute and improve, as there are many more than those listed. When I find the time I will do a List of Indigenous magazines and journals in North America, and maybe also a List of Indigenous media in North America for TV, radio and podcasts. Netherzone (talk) 03:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, this is awesome! I love this WikiProject! Pecopteris (talk) 03:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, this is awesome! I love this WikiProject! Pecopteris (talk) 03:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I've started List of Indigenous newspapers in North America. Please feel free to contribute and improve, as there are many more than those listed. When I find the time I will do a List of Indigenous magazines and journals in North America, and maybe also a List of Indigenous media in North America for TV, radio and podcasts. Netherzone (talk) 03:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also found this on WP List of Indigenous periodicals in Canada, that could be useful as can many categories already in existence that could be mined for additional publication and news sources): Category:First Nations newspapers, Category:First Nations magazines, Category:Native American magazines, Category:Native American newspapers, Category:Defunct Native American newspapers, Category:First Nations mass media, Category:Indigenous mass media in Canada, Category:Indigenous mass media, Category: Native American radio, Category:Navajo mass media, etc! - Netherzone (talk) 16:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are others that no longer publish like the Métis Voyager, newsletter of the Métis Nation of Ontario, the Saskatchewan Sage. I saw a lot of these on various university library websites in both the US and Canada. When I find the time will also check Mexico and other regions/countries of North America (altho my Spanish isn't great...). Netherzone (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
I have just created two userspace drafts User:Netherzone/List of Indigenous magazines and academic journals in North America and User:Netherzone/List of Indigenous media, TV, radio and podcasts in North America. (The titles of which of course can change if these aren't quite right). Please contribute to these drafts! Netherzone (talk) 15:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
What can I do to help?
[edit]I was told this is a good place to go to focus on systemic bias on Wikipedia. What can I do to get started? Chesslover96 (talk) 06:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest will be held next month, if you're interested in making content this might be a fun incentive. CMD (talk) 06:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Some editors seem intent on removing material that has greater relevance to non-English-speaking, non-Christian, esoteric readers as WP:UNDUE; it's about a document that, according to sources, influence an underlying attitude in neopagan and New Age circles. I think the roots of this removal fall under systemic bias, so alerting this project. Skyerise (talk) 20:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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